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Old 03-24-2008, 09:17 PM
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I didn't need it simply because in every political philosophy there are NASCAR fans (trust me there are) just like what he describes.

And as with the "mouth-breathing NASCAR" types he denigrates, there are smart people on both sides too.

There's no need for that here. I thought we were above it
It was tongue in cheek - seriously let's drop it.
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Oh... well... I'm dead [censored]ing serious when I call Cons mouth-breathers.
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It was tongue in cheek - seriously let's drop it.
Agree... why all the edginess? It's friggin March for [censored]'s sake...
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Not really, Bmike... I'm just [censored]ing around. Way too early to be worried about any of this.
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We aren't talking about John Glenn when we poke fun with those stereotypes. Glenn is in our fraternity so of course we couldn't fault him. I don't even fault Carville since he's one of us too. Frankly I wouldn't mind having a beer with both of them.

It's cool. Just something I'd been meaning to say for a while.
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Interesting international (British) take on the McCain candidacy:

FT.com / Comment & analysis / Comment - Why we should fear a McCain presidency

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Why we should fear a McCain presidency

By Anatol Lieven
Published: March 24 2008 19:12 | Last updated: March 25 2008 16:27


It may seem incredible to say this, given past experience, but a few years from now Europe and the world could be looking back at the Bush administration with nostalgia. This possibility will arise if the US elects Senator John McCain as president in November.

Over the years the US has inserted itself into potential flashpoints in different parts of the world. The Republican party is now about to put forward a natural incendiary as the man to deal with those flashpoints.
The problem that Mr McCain poses stems from his ideology, his policies and above all his personality. His ideology, like that of his chief advisers, is neo-conservative. In the past, Mr McCain was considered to be an old-style conservative realist. Today, the role of the realists on his team is merely decorative.

Driven in part by his intense commitment to the Iraq war, Mr McCain has relied more on neo-conservatives such as his close friend William Kristol, the Weekly Standard editor. His chief foreign policy adviser is Randy Scheunemann, another leading neo-conservative and a founder of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. Mr McCain shares their belief in what Mr Kristol has called ?national greatness conservatism?. In 1999, Mr McCain declared: ?The US is the indispensable nation because we have proven to be the greatest force for good in human history . . . We have every intention of continuing to use our primacy in world affairs for humanity?s benefit...
And the punchline:

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...Not just US voters, but European governments, should use the next nine months to ponder the consequences if Mr McCain is elected and how they could either prevent a McCain administration from pursuing pyromaniac policies or, if necessary, protect Europe from the ensuing conflagrations.
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Nancy Reagan Endorses McCain: Bloomberg.com: U.S.

This endorsement is important because it reminds us that there are actually people alive who are older than John McCain.
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Four words: Treasury Secretary Phil Gramm
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Endorsements.... I [censored]ing hate endorsements....

I mean, I guess I kind of get it when a group pledges support to a candidate... but... when the Republican Senator from State X endorses the Republican candidate for President, or the Democrat Gov. of State Y endorses Democratic candidate for President.. spare me the newsflash. Did any one thing Bush would not endorse McCain once McCain got the bid?

Shocking... the Republican is going with the Republican and the Dem the Dem.

If Nancy Regan was endorsing Hillary or Obama, then I can see a headline... otherwise it's "HEY! I USED TO BE RELEVANT!!!!!" attention whoring so far as I can tell.
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I would like to announce that tomorrow I will have an announcment regarding my intentions to endorse John McCain for President.
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Four words: Treasury Secretary Phil Gramm
Sounds great to me!
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Nancy Reagan Endorses McCain: Bloomberg.com: U.S.

This endorsement is important because it reminds us that there are actually people alive who are older than John McCain.
Whatchagonnado? Nancy knows.

The Stars don't lie!

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I would like to announce that tomorrow I will have an announcment regarding my intentions to endorse John McCain for President.
Don't you mean for "The President of John McCain"?
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Voting For McCain Makes People Angry, Depressed According To Crazy New Study - Politics on The Huffington Post

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This whole revelation is the work of an organization called Emotion Mining Company, a "Massachusetts public policy and market research firm." According to their study, "Voting for John McCain makes people feel 'angry' and 'depressed,'" and "The U.S. Senator from Arizona also stirs a high level of 'insecurity,' as well as deep-seated positive emotions like 'confidence' and 'interest' particularly among older and Hispanic voters."
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Just when I was just about fed up with his Alfred-the-Chipmunk, gauze-in-the-cheeks fresh-from-the-dentist look, I'm delighted to see that John McCain's jawbone has finally been located...

AP: John McCain's Jawbone found in Europe

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Human ancestor fossil found in Europe

By DANIEL WOOLLS
Associated Press Writer
57 minutes ago



A small piece of jawbone unearthed in a cave in Spain is the oldest known fossil of a human ancestor in Europe and suggests that people lived on the continent much earlier than previously believed, scientists say.

The researchers said the fossil found last year at Atapuerca in northern Spain, along with stone tools and animal bones, is up to 1.3 million years old. That would be 500,000 years older than remains from a 1997 find that prompted the naming of a new species: Homo antecessor, or Pioneer Man, possibly a common ancestor to Neanderthals and modern humans.

The new find appears to be from the same species, researchers said.

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Bipartisan team says McCain natural born

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A pair of lawyers - one Republican, one Democrat - have concluded that John McCain's 1936 birth outside the continental United States does not disqualify him to be president...
A federal judge in California has been asked to determine whether McCain meets the legal test to hold the nation's highest office. Although McCain has called questions about his eligibility nonsense, his campaign, as it did in his first White House run in 2000, sought a review from legal experts to put the issue to rest...
"Based on the original meaning of the Constitution, the Framers' intentions, and subsequent legal and historical precedent, Senator McCain's birth to parents who were U.S. citizens, serving on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936, makes him a 'natural born citizen' within the meaning of the Constitution," the review found...
The Constitution requires that only "natural born" citizens hold the presidency. But the Founding Fathers did not elaborate on the term, and the meaning of the phrase has long been debated.
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