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Old 10-30-2008, 09:12 PM
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This is really one of the most pathetic arguments I have heard this election.
i can understand why him not knowing how many houses they own bothers people. what i can't understand is why him owning 7 houses bothers people.
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That's saying something.
No [censored].
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i can understand why him not knowing how many houses they own bothers people. what i can't understand is why him owning 7 houses bothers people.
That's what I was referring to. You should probably quit working now so you don't make good money and lose touch with people.
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i can understand why him not knowing how many houses they own bothers people. what i can't understand is why him owning 7 houses bothers people.
Because it's evil. Obviously.

And it's perfectly kosher to question his background or how his and his wife's family became wealthy but don't question anything in Obama's background - especially the stuff he won't answer questions about.
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That's what I was referring to. You should probably quit working now so you don't make good money and lose touch with people.
Well hell after I lose my job with that stupid ass 25% DOD budget cut ( ) , maybe I'll be able to live in a house completely mortgage free since I won't either be an evil contractor or in the top 50% of wage earners anymore.

Hey I can always leach off of a stupid, exploitable system if it's there, of course that's assuming it works, and it won't.

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Because it's evil. Obviously.

And it's perfectly kosher to question his background or how his and his wife's family became wealthy but don't question anything in Obama's background - especially the stuff he won't answer questions about.
well someday tresselbeliever is going to have to justify knowing ekeen and bus. i hope he uses obamas line, "theyre guys in my vneighborhood"
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Well hell after I lose my job with that stupid ass 25% DOD budget cut ( ) , maybe I'll be able to live in a house completely mortgage free since I won't either be an evil contractor or in the top 50% of wage earners anymore.

Hey I can always leach off of a stupid, exploitable system if it's there, of course that's assuming it works, and it won't.

I wouldn't sweat it, the gov. is gonna take care of your 401k.
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I wouldn't sweat it, the gov. is gonna take care of your 401k.
i'm really looking forward to that guaranteed 3% instead of the not guaranteed (but historically probable) 8% return.
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re read what you quoted. "if"
The first line of the quote states that all of McCain's charitable donations were to the McCain foundation. I'm not really sure what the author is getting at with the final point, since it appears to contradict what is said earlier. I guess it depends on how much credence you give a site called Woman on the Edge. I really don't give a [censored] about who gave how much, I was just adding that for the sake of accuracy.
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well someday tresselbeliever is going to have to justify knowing ekeen and bus. i hope he uses obamas line, "theyre guys in my vneighborhood"
I hope my vassocations on message boards don't become a problem down the line. I think you are on to something.
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I hope my vassocations on message boards don't become a problem down the line. I think you are on to something.
well youre safe knowing me- unless hockey becomes a bad thing, lower corp tax rates are the devil and someone can prove that scoring more points isnt really the key to the game. these other whackos, good luck...
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i'm really looking forward to that guaranteed 3% instead of the not guaranteed (but historically probable) 8% return.
elitist. That's not YOUR money.


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well youre safe knowing me- unless hockey becomes a bad thing, lower corp tax rates are the devil and someone can prove that scoring more points isnt really the key to the game. these other whackos, good luck...
I think shetuck has successfully proven that holding your opponent to less scoring is just as important, if not more so.
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well someday tresselbeliever is going to have to justify knowing ekeen and bus. i hope he uses obamas line, "theyre guys in my vneighborhood"
Whoa, whoa, whoa - what's wrong with knowing me? Should gemmy be worried?

(and, for the record, I was a guy in TBeliever's neighborhood - go DSHS!)
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So I guess you pay no taxes at all now based on that principle? Congratulations! All taxes redistribute wealth to some extent. Right now my "wealth" is being redistributed by giving my tax dollars to failing banks and insurance companies.
What principle? And yes taxes do redistribute wealth to some extent. And they shouldn't. Taxes should go toward paying for the country's infrastructure. Not to pay for welfare, not to pay for insurance, not to pay the unemployed to stay away from work, and definitely not to fund pork. And as you say, it is currently going to pay for failing insurance companies and mortgage firms, businesses that should not have been lending money, or financing homes, or whatever, to people with a poor lending score. Taxes shouldn't pay for poor business decisions - period.

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I'll simply be allowed to keep more of what I earn.
Obama and the rest of the Dems have already promised to curtail the "temporary" tax break done by the Bush administration. And even if Obama keeps his word (he is a politician after all) to lower your taxes, his tax cut won't be as large as the one that he will allow to expire.

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wealthy people...don't give a squirt whether I pay an additional three percent a year - I sure as [censored] don't care about their three percent.
You are right! I basically don't care about most other folks tax burdens. But...why can't everybody keep more of their money? We as a country, had zero income tax until the first world war. Being a Congressman was a part time job, they usually made less than their constituents for the government aspect of their work. Being a public servant was done because you wanted to help your city, county, state, or country. NOT because you got paid more than your civilian counterpart, and NOT because you could retire when you had your twenty years in.

We as taxpayers just vote in who we think will help us, help me, personally, not who will help our country. And helping our country is not done by alienating the rich away from the working class, or making the poor more dependent than ever on the government. This will just make this more of a caste society. I thought this country would be polarized more than ever by having Hilary wear the big boy pants. It is starting to look like Obama may have the same effect.
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