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Old 08-08-2004, 11:27 PM
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Hanson on Dems foreign policy

Good fisking of Kerry/Edwards foreign policy....
http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson...0408060837.asp
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Old 08-09-2004, 10:12 AM
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Boy, when I read "Hanson" I thought it was going to be about those 3 chicks who used to go around singing 'mmmm boppp' in malls with all those 6th graders screaming at them.

Anyway... that would have been a very good article/op ed piece without any of the Bush/Kerry stuff.

The Dollar makes the world go round... not Dubya playing it tough, or Kerry playing it soft. Doesn't effing matter. The negative foreign relations repurcussions of American Hegemony (read: Affluence) will only be tempered by the willingness of foreign nations to conduct business with us. Period.

How is it I wonder that the Chinese and Russians have no problems with it, but the Euros want to cry like little girls?

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Old 08-09-2004, 06:17 PM
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The Euros-despite WWII-have led fairly sheltered, socialistic, well fed lives-maybe not as much material affluence as Americans, but none of the grinding poverty found in Appalachia or inner city Detroit, for example. They have lived under a very comfortable welfare system, and it has lasted thus far due to (IMO)- a-their hegemonic population-it's a lot easier to vote for social welfare benefits when everyone looks, speaks, worships,eats,etc.-exactly like you do, and b-their relatively small populations, compared to the United States.
China and Russia, on the other hand-have suffered thru bloodthirtsty tyrants, mass starvation, and economic systems which produced almost zero consumer goods-cool clothes, personal appliances/electronics, cars, a wide variety of food, for their entire histories. They want good stuff and they want it now. They don't care about abstract political entities-they want to enjoy the good life. It's sort of like the difference between the way a 1st round draft pick who grew up in Hilliard and had a stable family w/ a white collar income might spend his signing bonus, and the way a 1st rounder from the inner city projects w/ no dad and a mom who worked as a hotel maid might spend his signing bonus.
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akak stole my joke. i always get my jokes stolen dammit.
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27- I'm sorry.

Stx- I would say that your 'estimation' is a big part of things.

The other problem is that the Euros have to get along with each other to have their large economic unit... which probably isn't much fun... poor bastards.
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