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10-18-2007, 01:33 PM
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I guess you don't consider Iraqis getting shot and blown up every single day
the "wild west"? Let alone the on average 2 Americans dying every day.
Truth be told it was never as bad as Iraq in the American "wild west"!
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10-18-2007, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Taosman
I guess you don't consider Iraqis getting shot and blown up every single day
the "wild west"? Let alone the on average 2 Americans dying every day.
Truth be told it was never as bad as Iraq in the American "wild west"!
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during the indian wars in 1789, which is very much part of the "wild west" days, there were 6,125 killed in that year alone as a result of combat. thats not counting unrelated murders and accidental deaths. not to mention the fact that proportional populations vrs. area was significantly different. so that works out to being roughly 16.7 dead americans per day. not counting indian's who imo were very much american's as well.
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10-18-2007, 04:29 PM
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Wow! Nice research, martian!
100 people die every single day in Iraq! I'll do the math for you , martian.
100x365=36500 Iraqis. Plus 2 Americans per day 365x2=730
That's 37,230 per average year in Iraq.
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10-18-2007, 04:58 PM
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my number is american servicemen only. 16.7 > 2.
if you really want i can go back and look up inidian casualties. but i would imagine with the mass murdering being done at the time the number should be pretty high. not to mention random murders and accidental deaths. oh and we could also do a comparison of violent deaths per acre between the two, that would probably be fun too.
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10-18-2007, 06:29 PM
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yesterday similac, today walking, tomorrow dating
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I have to completey disagree. If the mercs signed on to do the job, they should be held accountable. They are heavily armed and supposedly well trained. Better trained the most the troops.
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Disagree all you want, but I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. the UCMJ is meant for military members, not civilians and not contractors.
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And Iraq is to change the Bremer law shortly.............
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That's good, it's a stupid decree, but it still won't be retroactive nor should it be.
Although anyone who breaks the updated law will be deported at worst.
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10-29-2007, 07:53 PM
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Yahoo!
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Immunity deal hampers Blackwater inquiry
WASHINGTON - The State Department promised Blackwater USA bodyguards immunity from prosecution in its investigation of last month's deadly shooting of 17 Iraqi civilians, The Associated Press has learned.
The immunity deal has delayed a criminal inquiry into the Sept. 16 killings and could undermine any effort to prosecute security contractors for their role in the incident that has infuriated the Iraqi government.
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04-05-2008, 02:52 PM
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Disagree all you want, but I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. the UCMJ is meant for military members, not civilians and not contractors.
That's good, it's a stupid decree, but it still won't be retroactive nor should it be.
Although anyone who breaks the updated law will be deported at worst.
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Worth revisiting this issue in light of a recent development:
U.S. Charges Contractor at Iraq Post in Stabbing
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The American military has charged a contractor with assault in a case that may emerge as a major test of the military?s legal jurisdiction over civilians who accompany the armed forces into the field, military officials and legal experts said Friday.
The charge was made under expanded authority that the United States Congress provided the military to crack down on contractor abuses. It is the first time since 1968 that a contractor has been charged under military law.
While the exact scope of the new authority has yet to be tested in court, experts said there might be some circumstances in which it could be interpreted to apply to security contractors, like those supplied by Blackwater.
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As for Blackwater itself - 1-year contract renewal ...
which could be canceled at any time.
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Starr said that Blackwater's contract could be pulled at some future point, depending on what the FBI and an internal State Department inquiry conclude. He would not predict whether that is likely, and he said he has no information about when the FBI might act.
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