Conservative Talk I can Agree with

[cincibuck]

Former GOP strategist, Kevin Phillips, was on the radio this morning and making sense with his words. Too bad I don't hear anything like this from Democrats or Republicans. Too many oxen get gored I guess.

Bad Money
Wall Street, U.S. Finances : NPR
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89642189&sc=emaf

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NewYorkBuck-where are you?

[BuckeyeMike80]

Is that what you were trying to post??

[mercer_buckeye]

One time Bill O'reilly said he was going to kill himself. It was the only time I understood his conservative logic.

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

Is that what you were trying to post??

You got it.

[cincibuck]

Bait? Actually, Phillips makes more sense about the economy than McCain, Obama or Hillary, so in that sense, yes.

The central issues become: 1) Can we afford laissez faire mentality in an era of mega banks? 2) Can we continue to survive by no longer manufacturing anything? 3) Can you make a national economy out of "money products?"

With a "bottom line driven" stockmarket, we have managed to force ourselves out of manufacturing and into a risky area where we push money and debt around, creating a short term, "get it now" mentality. Enron and the current housing loan fiasco should be showing us how quickly things can go from wonderful to awful in just such an economy. But. to me. the greater question is what do we do for employment? One thing history should teach us is that you don't want a huge section of your population unemployed and unemployable. Things tend to get very messy when that happens. Bring back domestic service? Put folks back on the farms? Reinstitute the treadmill... our current prison population could generate a hell of a lot of electricity that way... but, seriously, how does this kind of economy create jobs, jobs that can support a middle class life style?

McCain has at least had the courage to tell folks in Big 10 Country that the era of an economy driven by Big Three and steel manufacturing is over. He proposes retraining and my question is retraining for what? Unless the guys on the assembly line now are a far different breed than the guys I worked with in GM plants back in the '60s, there isn't much out there for them to do. They aren't going to become IT folks... and frankly, look at how much of the IT work has been sent off to the third world with engineering following close behind.

Believe Phillips, or not, what is for sure is that we are venturing into a new type of economy.

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Originally Posted by cincibuck

Bait? Actually, Phillips makes more sense about the economy than McCain, Obama or Hillary, so in that sense, yes.

The central issues become: 1) Can we afford laissez faire mentality in an era of mega banks? 2) Can we continue to survive by no longer manufacturing anything? 3) Can you make a national economy out of "money products?"

With a "bottom line driven" stockmarket, we have managed to force ourselves out of manufacturing and into a risky area where we push money and debt around, creating a short term, "get it now" mentality. Enron and the current housing loan fiasco should be showing us how quickly things can go from wonderful to awful in just such an economy. But. to me. the greater question is what do we do for employment? One thing history should teach us is that you don't want a huge section of your population unemployed and unemployable. Things tend to get very messy when that happens. Bring back domestic service? Put folks back on the farms? Reinstitute the treadmill... our current prison population could generate a hell of a lot of electricity that way... but, seriously, how does this kind of economy create jobs, jobs that can support a middle class life style?

McCain has at least had the courage to tell folks in Big 10 Country that the era of an economy driven by Big Three and steel manufacturing is over. He proposes retraining and my question is retraining for what? Unless the guys on the assembly line now are a far different breed than the guys I worked with in GM plants back in the '60s, there isn't much out there for them to do. They aren't going to become IT folks... and frankly, look at how much of the IT work has been sent off to the third world with engineering following close behind.

Believe Phillips, or not, what is for sure is that we are venturing into a new type of economy.

This post make a heck of a lot of sense. American needs to get off its ass and make better products themselves, put people to work in manufacturing and stop worrying about a bajillion percent profit margin. What once was the Arsenal of Democracy no longer makes a significant impact in manufacturing of many items. Stop the BS of NAFTA, etc., lets Buy American, America for Americans. We have the best and the brightest in the world living her in America, we also have some of the I don't cares and the easy way outers. American workers are top notch still and can do better than most. Lets get off our dead asses and make American great again. We have sold out to the almighty profit.

Don't tell me that American cars, for example, have parts made all over the world. I know that. WE can make better of everything if we stop worrying about the mega profit margin. Keep the money at home. The only reason things are made in China is because their workers and workers throughout the world work for peanuts.