F-22 Raptor, What the hell are we doing?

[NewYorkBuck]

Originally Posted by Muck

Very nice job of calling Naval Aviators liars.

Thx. I do my best.

[Muck]

Originally Posted by NewYorkBuck

Thx. I do my best.

Doubtless midshipmen could learn a thing or two about integrity from the folks on your street.

[NewYorkBuck]

Originally Posted by Muck

Doubtless midshipmen could learn a thing or two about integrity from the folks on your street.

Wow- not only do you have a complete and infallible knowledge of the unerring honesty of all naval personnel, in particular its aviators, but you now seem to also have quite the handle on the integrity, or lack thereof, of all of the folks who reside on "my street...."

Amazing really.......

[Muck]

Originally Posted by NewYorkBuck

Wow- not only do you have a complete and infallible knowledge of the unerring honesty of all naval personnel, in particular its aviators, [/i]

Feel free to point out where I have made such a claim.

Then please add a footnote with the post where you were in fact the one making such assertions.

but you now seem to also have quite the handle on the integrity, or lack thereof, of all of the folks who reside on "my street...."

All the folks eh? Again taking liberties with what's actually said.

Still I can understand why it would hit a nerve but you'd think that particular nerve would be numb by now given the continuous beating it must take with every new case of fraud.

Amazing really.......

Yes it truly is amazing how some are quick to make unfounded claims but fill up with mock indignation when faced with similar assertions.

Now if you're done playing the false victim we can address this seriously.

Red Flag is not a solo exercise, there are thousands of personnel from various US branches & multiple foreign nations. If the Growler kill marking was a fraud it would have been exposed very quickly and spread across every aviation forum like wildfire.

F-22's have been killed at Red Flag (and other training exercises) before and they will be so again. It's just part of the game.

The claims that it didn't happen are just as ridiculous as the ones trying to use it as excuse to attack the Raptor's ability by those with an axe to grind.

[NewYorkBuck]

Originally Posted by Muck

Very nice job of calling Naval Aviators liars.

Hmmmmm - that sure sounds like one is putting the honesty of Naval Aviators beyond reproach, but if you want to backpeddle on that now, feel free.


And as to "hitting a nerve" - if you can call me making millions off of people like you "hitting a nerve" - then I guess Im a nervous wreck. I guess thats just me "playing the victim again."


Finally - your statement -

"Yes it truly is amazing how some are quick to make unfounded claims but fill up with mock indignation when faced with similar assertions."

Lets see

- You first imply that even questioning a report from a naval aviator is beyond reproach.

- You make a lame attempt at a personal attack in the guise of attacking Wall St when you didnt like my IMO deservedly flippant answer to your silly implication above. Not to mention you have probably not the slightest idea on how Wall St runs because you likely have never worked there nor probably never knew anyone who has. But if you want to base all of your knowledge off of political sound bytes, be my guest.


My advice to you is take a nickels worth of your own.......

[jimotis4heisman]

i guess ill toss this here. recently the us electrical grid has been hacked, now another dod f35 hacked

Computer Spies Breach Fighter-Jet Project - WSJ.com

[ScriptOhio]

F-22 Raptor Makes Its European Debut & Really set the rest of the World back on it's heels (including Russia)
Al Norman, Lockheed Martin's chief F-22 test pilot, describes the flight demo of the Raptor at the Farnborough Airshow for the First time.Amazing performance.!

Check this out: http://www.militarytimes.com/multime...0080714_rc_f22

Any pilots out there will love this video.

[MaxBuck]

Originally Posted by ScriptOhio

F-22 Raptor Makes Its European Debut & Really set the rest of the World back on it's heels (including Russia)
Al Norman, Lockheed Martin's chief F-22 test pilot, describes the flight demo of the Raptor at the Farnborough Airshow for the First time.Amazing performance.!

Check this out: http://www.militarytimes.com/multime...0080714_rc_f22

Any pilots out there will love this video.

Much as any typographers out there will love the rest of the post.