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Old 06-05-2008, 05:18 PM
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Voting none of the above is for pansies!

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Old 06-05-2008, 05:39 PM
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But now you have "hope"?

(Sorry, couldn't resist. I wish I could be enthused about one of them, but I can't find it.)
I'll say this - I think John McCain is a hell of a lot better choice than W, and I think Obama is a hell of a lot better choice than Kerry. So I'm pretty optimistic that things won't get worse, and they might even get better. Regardless of who wins.
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Old 06-05-2008, 05:45 PM
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I'll say this - I think John McCain is a hell of a lot better choice than W, and I think Obama is a hell of a lot better choice than Kerry. So I'm pretty optimistic that things won't get worse, and they might even get better. Regardless of who wins.
I wasn't too excited about 2004, either.

That said, there's another issue at hand...Congress. Frankly, I think they've done a lot more damage this decade than the President, and will continue to do so no matter who wins the White House in November.
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Voting none of the above is for pansies!
How about I go into to the voting booth and do Eenie-Meenie-Minie-Mo...?
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Old 06-05-2008, 05:48 PM
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I wasn't too excited about 2004, either.

That said, there's another issue at hand...Congress. Frankly, I think they've done a lot more damage this decade than the President, and will continue to do so no matter who wins the White House in November.
It looks like it will be a different congress than it was for most of the decade, FWIW... for the most part, I think political collusion between the legislative branch and executive branch is a bad thing, no matter which party is holding both.
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Old 06-05-2008, 05:50 PM
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How about I go into to the voting booth and do Eenie-Meenie-Minie-Moe...?
Which one?

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Old 06-05-2008, 06:13 PM
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It looks like it will be a different congress than it was for most of the decade,
It's been different since 2006 than it was prior to it. I wouldn't say better, just different.

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FWIW... for the most part, I think political collusion between the legislative branch and executive branch is a bad thing, no matter which party is holding both.
Gridlock looks better and better all the time.
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Supreme court replacements. That is what 08 is about. If you want Scalia Brand, then McCain is for you. If you don't want ultra conservative Justices, then you vote for the Muslim fella.

To me, this issue is more important than any other, and carries with it far more "change" effects than any other issue that they may disagree on.

Which is why I am a yella dog this time. Course, if the dems were sure to win a bunch of seats in the Senate and the House so that they can overturn a Presidential veto, then it might be good to have an elephant in the WH for balance...

I wish I knew in advance how that was going to shake out. With enough dems in congress, I'd vote McCain.
What he said.
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how long till they sell bumper stickers that say "We're [censored]ed '08"

i'd buy one
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I wasn't too excited about 2004, either.

That said, there's another issue at hand...Congress. Frankly, I think they've done a lot more damage this decade than the President, and will continue to do so no matter who wins the White House in November.
You sound like a W apologist. W is the worst POTUS we have had in my lifetime -- yes, worse even than Jimmy (the Naif) Carter. Both genuinely good men, both execrable chief executives.
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