Obama Political Test

[Best Buckeye]

Can anyone say "R E V O L U T I O N ". Guess who will command this force?

[Gatorubet]

Originally Posted by Best Buckeye

Can anyone say "R E V O L U T I O N ". Guess who will command this force?

['BusNative]

Originally Posted by Jake

Because I'm concerned with what he says while you're concerned with how he says it.

Shed your cynicism, Jake.

[sepia5]

Originally Posted by Best Buckeye

Can anyone say "R E V O L U T I O N ". Guess who will command this force?

[martinss01]

ok i don't get it. what is the benefit for the country? we are assuming our kids will be better educated and have better work ethics. however, im not certain that a small increase in this area will warrant the cost. if we truely setup a program that rivals the cost of the dod... thats a stupid amount of money for what is essentially community service. i don't see how this is overly helpful for the kids as they can not attend school during the time. nor do i see a significant financial reward for the taxpayers. ive never heard of this program before so i am probably misinterpreting or misunderstanding something. but i don't see much if any benefit to this program. let alone a payoff for the cost. anyone know what the actual intentions are for this program and how eager obama is to implement it?

Originally Posted by Jake

Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed. - Michelle Obama

this quote angers me in a very special way.

['BusNative]

Require 100 Hours of Service in College: Obama will establish a new American Opportunity Tax Credit that is worth $4,000 a year in exchange for 100 hours of public service a year.

Create the American Opportunity Tax Credit: Obama will make college affordable for all Americans by creating a new American Opportunity Tax Credit. This universal and fully refundable credit will ensure that the first $4,000 of a college education is completely free for most Americans, and will cover two-thirds the cost of tuition at the average public college or university and make community college tuition completely free for most students. Obama will also ensure that the tax credit is available to families at the time of enrollment by using prior year's tax data to deliver the credit when tuition is due.

The "payment" is a tax credit to offset college tuition. Incidentally, all of this info is available online.

[martinss01]

busnative, i assume you are addressing my questions. if this is the case, thank you . however your answer only muddied the water further. which seems fitting for a political conversation i suppose. anyway, heres where im getting confused:

We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.- Barack Obama

how does the above fit with this:
Katimavik

which appears to me to be some form of volunteer service where you aren't permitted to attend school of any type.

and your post about how this is a tax refund to make college affordable.

Originally Posted by 'BusNative

The "payment" is a tax credit to offset college tuition. Incidentally, all of this info is available online.

if your reply was not actually to me... disregard .

[LitlBuck]

Obama will make college affordable for all Americans by creating a new American Opportunity Tax Credit. This universal and fully refundable credit will ensure that the first $4,000

That should do it for most Americans. $4000 is really a drop in the bucket when it comes to a college education for all Americans. Granted, it might take some relief away from college students getting loans but trying to say this is going to help all Americans go to college... please. If the parent pays for his child's education will he get the tax credit? Who is going to pay for all of these education credits that he is offering? I think I have an idea.

Obama will establish a new American Opportunity Tax Credit that is worth $4,000

Who is going to keep track of these hours? The student or more bureaucracy. In any event, it will lead to more bureaucracy and larger government. I also have the same questions about who is going to pay for it but again I think I know and I don't like it. Who gets the community service? I don't think it is the people who are paying the most taxes and I'm not talking about the very wealthy person.

['BusNative]

Ah, my bad. I only read this post (below), and thought the bolded passage was in reference to the $40/hr payment that Jake was mentioned in the Obama thread earlier. I didn't even go to the Katimavik link. My bad, brother.

Originally Posted by martinss01

ok i don't get it. what is the benefit for the country? we are assuming our kids will be better educated and have better work ethics. however, im not certain that a small increase in this area will warrant the cost. if we truely setup a program that rivals the cost of the dod... thats a stupid amount of money for what is essentially community service. i don't see how this is overly helpful for the kids as they can not attend school during the time. nor do i see a significant financial reward for the taxpayers. ive never heard of this program before so i am probably misinterpreting or misunderstanding something. but i don't see much if any benefit to this program. let alone a payoff for the cost. anyone know what the actual intentions are for this program and how eager obama is to implement it?



this quote angers me in a very special way.

[AKAKBUCK]

Originally Posted by Best Buckeye

Can anyone say "R E V O L U T I O N ". Guess who will command this force?

Prince?

[Brutus1]

Tracy Chapman?

[LadyBuckeye]

ObamaTest.com

You scored 14
You're an embarrassment to Barack.

My parents are going to be sooo proud!!!

[BuckeyeMike80]

You scored 18
You're an embarrassment to Barack.



GOOD.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Require 100 Hours of Service in College: Obama will establish a new American Opportunity Tax Credit that is worth $4,000 a year in exchange for 100 hours of public service a year.

Screw that. you're not in college (supposedly) to do anything else but get your degree. Partying is nice and community service is nice too, but the goal is your degree.

[methomps]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

Screw that. you're not in college (supposedly) to do anything else but get your degree. Partying is nice and community service is nice too, but the goal is your degree.

This is aimed at those who wouldn't otherwise get a degree since they can't afford to go to college.