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Old 08-27-2008, 02:31 PM
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Can you give me 10 of the 2,000 words that these pictures are supposed to mean? A mid-sentence still from a speech and a fist bump? Give me a [censored]ing break. What on earth does Michelle Obama have to be angry about? What chip?
Don't you recognize a terrorist fist bump when you see one?
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Old 08-27-2008, 02:35 PM
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Don't you recognize a terrorist fist bump when you see one?
Apparently I'm not a foreign policy expert. Could the increased political fist-bumping have something to do with the increased vascillation between amber and orange alerts?
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Old 08-27-2008, 02:52 PM
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The people that are the most angry are "voters" and pride themselves in their participation in the democratic process. They'll show up and vote because they believe they should. If they weren't those kind of people, they really wouldn't give a [censored] about how the primary turned out.

So they'll vote. For who? Anyone's guess.
Well, the really angry ones are the minority.... and they will vote, that's true. Many, most, will vote for Obama. I few will pull "An AKAK" when he voted for Ted Strickland to punish the Republicans for running what's his dumbass. (There will be plenty who do that the other way just to punish the Republicans, not necessarily over McCain. In my case in the govorner election it had little to do with Taft, his time was over... whatever, everyone has their reasons)

Reality is that Obama isn't polilng as well as the Democratic party overall, that's not good.

That means that there are a group of "disaffected" democrats out there, and some might vote but not push a button in the big election... its not always the lesser of 2 evils...

Remember 2000 when there was the attempt to gauge "voter intent" in Florida? And the argument was that was it was unlikely that the intent wasn't to vote for no one if they got to the polls? It happens, my mom is very good at voting "none of the above"
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:00 PM
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What on earth does Michelle Obama have to be angry about?
I surely have no idea, maybe it's because our "white cultural and social structure... will only allow [her] to remain on the periphery of society" ... or something to that effect.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:04 PM
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I surely have no idea, maybe it's because our "white cultural and social structure... will only allow [her] to remain on the periphery of society" ... or something to that effect.
I guess you can choose to believe or not believe her speech from Monday.

I guess I "bought" the whole concept that a woman who came from a good 2-parent family, with an all-star older brother, who went to the two best schools in the nation (according to US News), who has two very cute little girls, whose husband has made an historic run to be the candidate of a major political party might actually be authentically happy. Maybe I'm just dumb like that.

I tend to think the chip resides on the shoulders of those who don't like to see that level of achievement in others.
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I guess you can choose to believe or not believe her speech from Monday.
I agree completely.
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What is wrong with raising taxes on people who make more than $250,000 a year? I mean...if you are rich...vote for McCain. But if you aren't, then why would you not vote for Obama? At least when it comes to taxes.
That $250,000 doesn't just apply to personal income, as it also applies to small businesses too. Any lower wage earner working for such companies would do well to not vote for those tax increases either.

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If you want to see Hillary become president, then a vote for Obama would likely help that. If Obama/Biden are in office the next 8 years, Biden won't run for President, and Hillary would be a frontrunner. And if Obama is as popular as he probably will be, she couldn't likely win it.

If McCain wins, then she could try again in 4 years, but it's always harder to beat an incumbent.
If Obama wins she'll have to wait 8 years. She would be running as a 68-69 year old. Voters don't tend to vote for presidential candidates that are older people or women. She'd be facing a 2-category challenge in that regard. Her window is/was 2008 and 2012. 2016 probably only as an incumbent.
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Apparently I'm not a foreign policy expert. Could the increased political fist-bumping have something to do with the increased vascillation between amber and orange alerts?
I think Tom Ridge just raised the fist-bump alert to Orange, which means you can no longer carry your fists onto the plane...you have to check them, unless your hands are smaller than 3 oz.
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I agree completely.
And what's the anagram of Michelle Obama????

Mama Boil Leech !!

In other words...



She's a witch!!!
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I think Tom Ridge just raised the fist-bump alert to Orange, which means you can no longer carry your fists onto the plane...you have to check them, unless your hands are smaller than 3 oz.
And Earl Bruce just commented on the likelihood that he will use Terrelle Pryor in the Youngstown game...
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I surely have no idea, maybe it's because our "white cultural and social structure... will only allow [her] to remain on the periphery of society" ... or something to that effect.
Oh, so the picture was taken 23 years ago while she was a student at lilly white Princeton?
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I think Tom Ridge just raised the fist-bump alert to Orange, which means you can no longer carry your fists onto the plane...you have to check them, unless your hands are smaller than 3 oz.
So we're letting this nutjob through? [censored]!

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Oh, so the picture was taken 23 years ago while she was a student at lilly white Princeton?
That picture is definitely not of a college student, but I think it shows a flash of the same proud and righteous anger.
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That picture is definitely not of a college student, but I think it shows a flash of the same proud and righteous anger.
Fair enough.

So what do you think is shown by the fist bump picture?
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Fair enough.

So what do you think is shown by the fist bump picture?
Keepin' it real? Just poking fun with that one, really.
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