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Old 08-28-2008, 01:09 PM
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I bet he'll be the best Stadium speech giver since either Lou Gehrig or Hitler.
Or maybe even Bono........
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I bet he'll be the best Stadium speech giver since either Lou Gehrig or Hitler.
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I bet he'll be the best Stadium speech giver since either Lou Gehrig or Hitler.
"Todaayyyyyyl I consider myselfelfelfelf the luckiest Muslimmmmm..in the Whole Worldddd...."
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Yeah, see, this whole thing is risky if you ask me, dude is jsut asking to get Lloyd Bentsoned.
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I don't think there's any question that the speeches have been good for what they needed to be. But, with the exception of Reagan, there really hasn't been too many times that the Dems didn't give better speeches than the Repubs did the past 50 years. Nixon was droll and boring, The Bushes couldn't deliver a speech to save ther lives...and they all managed wins, many times 2 of them. Speeches at conventions are lovely, and if they accomplish actually getting people out to vote, then they have been successful. However, there is a lot of time for the average Joe to forget these speeches before November...it's what happens between now and then that counts. The same, of course, goes for the Repubs.
Man, I hate to do it, but I've got to say that you are not giving W enough credit for his 2004 speech. When he referenced the decision he made to go to Iraq, and how difficult he knew it would be for the families involved, he choked up in a way that made him actually believable. He hit that speech out of the park on that issue.

Kerry, on the other hand, had his speech marred by his inability to take in the moment. Everytime the crowd cheered for a good soundbite, he talked them down and didn't bask in the adulation. His speech came off punchy and uncomfortable.

And you saw it in the polls. Bush got a huge convention spike. Kerry got nothing. After the Republican convention, Bush never seriously trailed in the polls again. It was the turning point, in my opinion, of that election.
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Man, I hate to do it, but I've got to say that you are not giving W enough credit for his 2004 speech. When he referenced the decision he made to go to Iraq, and how difficult he knew it would be for the families involved, he choked up in a way that made him actually believable. He hit that speech out of the park on that issue.

Kerry, on the other hand, had his speech marred by his inability to take in the moment. Everytime the crowd cheered for a good soundbite, he talked them down and didn't bask in the adulation. His speech came off punchy and uncomfortable.

And you saw it in the polls. Bush got a huge convention spike. Kerry got nothing. After the Republican convention, Bush never seriously trailed in the polls again. It was the turning point, in my opinion, of that election.
Point taken, I was more thinking of 2000...when he couldn't put a coherent sentence together, and everyone publicly was like "Why do we even need the formality of the vote?"
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Point taken, I was more thinking of 2000...when he couldn't put a coherent sentence together, and everyone publicly was like "Why do we even need the formality of the vote?"
Well, he was going up against the Marty Schottenheimer of Presidential candidates in Al Gore.
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Well, he was going up against the Marty Schottenheimer of Presidential candidates in Al Gore.
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Inside GOP circles early Thursday, speculation swirled around Lieberman. It was fueled by reports that McCain's advisers had asked for additional detailed information from Lieberman, by McCain's close friendship with the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee, and by word that Republican operatives had been told to prepare for the possibility of an "unconventional" choice.
McCain Decides on Running Mate

edit: OK, Thump is looking more likely too
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Or maybe even Bono........
Opening verse of Obama's campaign theme song, as performed by U2 (seriously).

The more you see the less you know
The less you find out as you go
I knew much more then than I do now
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:18 PM
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Nice that we have moved from the Bill and Hillary show to watch Caesar inspire the masses.
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Nice that we have moved from the Bill and Hillary show to watch Hitler inspire the masses.
fify

joking, obviously. however, i do think it will be creepy watching him whip 80,000 people into a frenzy by appealing to their emotions and making promises that no one can deliver.
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fify

joking, obviously. however, i do think it will be creepy watching him whip 80,000 people into a frenzy by appealing to their emotions and making promises that no one can deliver.
As opposed to a State of the Union one where 200 million get stiffed?
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Stevie Wonder.... still doesnt sound too bad
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