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Old 09-11-2008, 11:07 AM
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How very odd:

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Biden: Hillary might have been better VP pick ? - Blogs from CNN.com


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?Make no mistake about this, Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let?s get that straight,? Biden said testily when a voter told Biden he was glad the Delaware senator had been chosen and not Clinton.

?She?s a truly close personal friend and she is qualified to be President of the United States of America, she?s easily qualified to be Vice President of the United States of America and quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me,? he continued.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:11 AM
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how long till this is a tv ad? ill chalk this up as another "mistake" by the campaign/canidate.
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Call me crazy, but I think Hillary will be the VP nominee within a week.

Which, BTW, will automatically get me to vote against.
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Call me crazy, but I think Hillary will be the VP nominee within a week.

Which, BTW, will automatically get me to vote against.
Yeah.

'Cause, like we all know, you were getting ready to vote for the Islamic guy otherwise.
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:29 PM
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Yeah.

'Cause, like we all know, you were getting ready to vote for the Islamic guy otherwise.
Well otherwise I was not exactly liking my choices at present....
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Well otherwise I was not exactly liking my choices at present....
When in doubt, go with the letter C.











With the only exception being on true or false questions...
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When in doubt, go with the letter C.

With the only exception being on true or false questions...
Letter C is sitting home on election night and drinking heavily, because we're [censored]ed either way.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:31 AM
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Call me crazy, but I think Hillary will be the VP nominee within a week.
I don't think it'll be this week, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a switcheroo before November. I think that would produce mixed for results in terms of winning uncommitted voters, probably more negative than positive.

The question becomes how many jilted Hillary voters who jumped on the McCain/Palin wagon would come back to the Democrats. Some obviously would, but some would see it as an act of desperation.
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I don't think it'll be this week, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a switcheroo before November. I think that would produce mixed for results in terms of winning uncommitted voters, probably more negative than positive.

The question becomes how many jilted Hillary voters who jumped on the McCain/Palin wagon would come back to the Democrats. Some obviously would, but some would see it as an act of desperation.
I think changing would be an unmitigated disaster. Our resident Gator has reminded us of what happened to George McGovern when he did that. Hillary or no Hillary, you don't get a do-over on the choice of your running mate without looking completely inept. If you did, why in the furball [censored] would 41 have kept Dan Quayle?
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I think changing would be an unmitigated disaster. Our resident Gator has reminded us of what happened to George McGovern when he did that. Hillary or no Hillary, you don't get a do-over on the choice of your running mate without looking completely inept. If you did, why in the furball [censored] would 41 have kept Dan Quayle?
Bingo. You can't flip flop on the VP pick, you are essentially hanging yourself.
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Letter C is sitting home on election night and drinking heavily, because we're [censored]ed either way.
I'm with you on that one!
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Letter C is sitting home on election night and drinking heavily, because we're [censored]ed either way.
And alternately screaming/cackling while she sticks pins in her little Obama doll...

I must admit the democrats always manage to wrest defeat from the jaws of victory by picking bad candidates. It is unfortunate for the majority of the country that is middle of the road that they keep putting up right wing and ultra left candidates to win the "base", when the country is largely neither right nor left. And both sides keep us angry and divided by their strategies - which almost demand that we pick a side and a "team" to support. That team then is the important thing, so that when scum like Delay or Jefferson get in the cross hairs of an investigation it becomes more important to "defend the team" than to throw the bastard out and lock him up.

I can be spun up easier than I'd like to admit into a partisan pitch, and more often during election cycles when the "team" approach is more pronounced. It is stupid stupid stupid to have debates on issues, as that will not get you elected. It is far and away more effective to have attack ads that mis-characterize your opponent's position, or to create divisive issues like Flag burning that have zilch effect on our daily lives, but that push hot button in the voting booth.

Elephants like to create "patriotism" and intensely religious tinged issues. Democrats like to create and foster class warfare and attacks on those better off economically to get the block poor vote. Lost in the mix is the discussion of what might be actually better for the country. Like any discussion that is primarily a learning experience, for it to be effective it has to be genuine information that is the best effort by any proponent of a side to educate about their view. This should be followed by the other side, and then by questioning and examination arrive at a conclusion about which idea is best. Here, we have both sides lying out of their teeth about not only the other guy's side, but about their side as well. It is almost impossible to ferret out the truth when both sides are playing hide the ball.

Oh well. McCain is exactly like Bush and wants to be in Iraq until Twig Palin has grandkids and Obama wants to teach [censored]ing to five year olds....or so I've heard.

I can only conclude that there is one and only one truth in the world.

Wearing red and black together and/or "woofing" like a dog should be illegal in all 50 states and in Iraq. If not, what kind of civilization are we really trying to create over there?
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Biden: Wealthy Americans Must Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism - America’s Election HQ

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Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says that paying higher taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.

Biden says he and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama want to ?take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people.?
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