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Poor, Persecuted Sarah Palin - WSJ.com

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Indeed, if political figures stand for ideas, victimization is what Ms. Palin is all about. It is her brand, her myth. Ronald Reagan stood tall. John McCain was about service. Barack Obama has hope. Sarah Palin is a collector of grievances. She runs for high office by griping.
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Poor, Persecuted Sarah Palin - WSJ.com

Damn liberal Wall Street Journal!
Despite what most of you liberals and mushy-moderates think, a large (and growing) contingent of the right can't stand this woman and don't understand the appeal.
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[EKeen]Despite what most of you liberals and mushy-moderates think, a large (and growing) contingent of the right can't stand this woman and don't understand the appeal.[/EKeen]

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[EKeen]Despite what most of you liberals and mushy-moderates think, a large (and growing) contingent of the right can't stand this woman and don't understand the appeal.[/EKeen]

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[censored] every time you mentioned this chick around ekeen he and Tibs would disappear for 10 minutes and come back sweaty....
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Damn liberal Wall Street Journal!
i saw it this morning and moved on, really and odd article..
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The culture's fantastically unfair treatment of middle Americans is the main lesson that many will no doubt take away from Ms. Palin's time in the national spotlight. In fact, it may be the only lesson. We don't really know where the former vice presidential candidate stands on most issues. We know only that she is constantly being maligned, that when we turn on the TV and see her fair face beaming, we are about to hear that some liberal someone has slurred this noble lady yet again.
Indeed, if political figures stand for ideas, victimization is what Ms. Palin is all about. It is her brand, her myth. Ronald Reagan stood tall. John McCain was about service. Barack Obama has hope. Sarah Palin is a collector of grievances. She runs for high office by griping.
This is no small thing, mind you. The piling-up of petty complaints is an important aspect of conservative movement culture. For those who believe that American life consists of the trampling of Middle America by the "elites" -- that our culture is one big insult to the pious and the patriotic and the traditional -- Sarah Palin's long list of unfair and disrespectful treatment is one of her most attractive features. Like Oliver North, Robert Bork, and Clarence Thomas, she is known not for her ideas but as a martyr, a symbol of the culture-war crimes of the left.
To become a symbol of this stature Ms. Palin has had to do the opposite of most public figures. Where others learn to take hostility in stride, she and her fans have developed the thinnest of skins. They find offense in the most harmless remarks and diabolical calculation in the inflections of the anchorman's voice. They take insults out of context to make them seem even more insulting. They pay close attention to voices that are ordinarily ignored, relishing every blogger's sneer, every celebrity's slight, every crazy Internet rumor.
This has been Ms. Palin's assigned role ever since she stepped on the national stage last summer. Indeed, she has stuck to it so unswervingly that one suspects it was settled on even before she was picked for the VP slot, that it was imposed on her by a roomful of GOP image consultants: Ms. Palin was to be the candidate on a cross.
Resentment was, for example, the most-noticed theme in her famous speech at the Republican convention in September, when she introduced herself to America by taking umbrage at those Democrats who "seem to look down on" small-town ways. Before long she had become a full-time victim of the media, deploring "the bitter shots" they took at her. She imagined that reporters were threatening her First Amendment rights by criticizing her. She found a fellow underdog in Joe the Plumber, and after reviewing his mistreatment by the media she made him part of her stump routine.
But the template was apparently set even before her big roll-out. In an essay in The Weekly Standard that was written before Ms. Palin's celebrated debut in St. Paul, William Kristol somehow already knew that liberals "will ridicule her and patronize her. They will distort her words and caricature her biography. They will appeal, sometimes explicitly, to anti-small town and anti-religious prejudice." And all this contempt will serve an important propaganda purpose, he continued, with Ms. Palin becoming a "powerful symbol" for "lots of Americans who are told every day that to be even a bit conservative or Christian or old-fashioned is bad form."
Mr. Kristol's magazine has beat the persecution drum ever since. Its current issue features a cover story about Ms. Palin's suffering by Matthew Continetti, who is actually said to be writing a book titled, "The Persecution of Sarah Palin." In the course of Mr. Continetti's essay he admits to collecting insults of Ms. Palin, which he stores in a computer file that he says is seven pages long.
My advice to Mr. Continetti: Put your insult collection aside for a moment and ask instead why people like Ms. Palin savor insults in the first place. The answer may not endear you to Weekly Standard readers, but it will take you a lot further toward understanding the world we live in.
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Despite what most of you liberals and mushy-moderates think, a large (and growing) contingent of the right can't stand this woman and don't understand the appeal.
Good God, we can only hope. Spoken as a true mushy moderate, of course.
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Good God, we can only hope. Spoken as a true mushy moderate, of course.
I think she's going to be the new Gary Bauer. Only a MILF. So a Gary BILF. Or something.
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I think she's going to be the new Gary Bauer. Only a MILF. So a Gary BILF. Or something.
So you want to hook up with Bauer. I don't think the GOP has a don't-ask-don't-tell policy. they're very uptight about that kind of gettin' it on.
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So you want to hook up with Bauer. I don't think the GOP has a don't-ask-don't-tell policy. they're very uptight about that kind of gettin' it on.
Yeah, that's what I said
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Yeah, that's what I said
[FoxNews]And today Bucklion specifically confirmed his intention and desire to have sex with Gary Bauer![/FoxNews]
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[FoxNews]And today Bucklion specifically confirmed that he did indeed have sex with Gary Bauer![/FoxNews]
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[MSNBC_Olberman]And today Bucklion specifically confirmed that he did indeed have sex with Gary Bauer and they are both dying of AIDS.

And it serves them both right![/MSNBC_Olberman]
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Sara “Baracuda” Palin Ethics Violations List | In Your Face Radio
Ethics complaints filed against Palin: Gov. Sarah Palin | adn.com

i believe their have been 3 more allegations since that time.


actually sangdk- Palin Legal Fund Challenged As Ethics Violation
her legal defense fund was actually an alleged violation.

the numbers i posted before was 1.9m (minus about what was found to just short of 30k in numbers that appear fuzzy).
Ex-Alaska Governor Sarah Palin (Official)
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also gator i dont know how exactly the venue works but what do you think it would cost jindal to 12bc or 56 stuff out against him? ak states the state attorney fee cap is $120some, what kind of law work can you get done at that amount? contrast that to the in excess of $1,000 an hour firms gm is using for their b.r.
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) -- An independent investigator has found evidence that Gov. Sarah Palin may have violated ethics laws by accepting private donations to pay her legal debts, in the latest legal distraction for the former vice presidential candidate as she prepares to leave office this week.
The report obtained by The Associated Press says Palin is securing unwarranted benefits and receiving improper gifts through the Alaska Fund Trust, set up by supporters.
An investigator for the state Personnel Board says in his July 14 report that there is probable cause to believe Palin used or attempted to use her official position for personal gain because she authorized the creation of the trust as the "official" legal defense fund.
The practical effect of the ruling on Palin will be more financial than anything else. The report recommends that Palin refuse to accept payment from the defense fund, and that the complaint be resolved without a formal hearing before the Alaska Personnel Board.
The fund aims to help Palin pay off debts stemming from multiple ethics complaints against her, most of which have been dismissed. Palin says she owes more than $500,000 in legal fees, and she cited the mounting toll of the ethics probes as one of the reasons she is leaving office.
A call seeking comment from her lawyer and an e-mail to her spokeswoman were not immediately returned.
Palin's friends and supporters created the Alaska Fund Trust in April, limiting donations to $150 per person. Organizers declined to say how much it has raised, and had hoped to raise about $500,000. A Webathon last month brought in about $130,000 in pledges.
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Sarah Palin's resignation speech copyedited:

Palin's Resignation: The Edited Version | vanityfair.com

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