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Palin bridge to nowhere line angers many Alaskans | Politics | Reuters

In the city Ketchikan, the planned site of the so-called "Bridge to Nowhere," political
leaders of both parties said the claim was false and a betrayal of their community,
because she had supported the bridge and the earmark for it secured by Alaska's
Congressional delegation during her run for governor.

When she was running for governor in 2006, Palin said she was insulted by the term
"bridge to nowhere," according to Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein, a Democrat, and
Mike Elerding, a Republican who was Palin's campaign coordinator in the southeast Alaska city.
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The New Thomas Eagleton? Shoot now, vet later.

The convention isn't over. She's not been nominated -- nominations aren't even open. She could disappear just as quickly as she appeared.

I listened to Diane Rheem today, one Evangelical blasted her for being a working mom; period. One Dem had her panties all in a wad about Palin's fighting for abstinence only education programs. Few made any substinative remarks.

Focussing on Palin as anything more than a glimpse at McCain's decision making or the power of the evangelicals to block anyone outside their narrow viewpoint is a mistake. Boys don't hit girls. You don't publically knock religion or bad mouth motherhood and win elections.

But boy, even in the midst of a hurricane, this has stopped all media attention on Obama and it will be difficult to get it back for a week or two. From that point of view it's a stroke of genius.
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Yeah, and? A minion is a minion...Michael Moore criticizes Democrats when they aren't left enough for him too.
Let's see; is/has Michael Moore now/ever been an official member of a candidate's election committee? Has he ever held a spot in the President's inner circle?

I don't mind the comparision but let's make it an apples to apples, oranges to oranges comparison.

Further, did Michael Moore EVER accuse someone of having a love child? Of selling out fellow POWs? There's political mudslinging and then there is political mudslinging.
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Republican Family Values: John Mac Chooses Ice Milf With Issues

September 2, 2008 by Lake Arlington
Who knew so much could happen over such a short period of time. I?m a bit behind given my 5 day weekend and you?d essentially have to be living under a damn rock to have missed this, but to counter Barack Obama?s 38 Million Viewers on Thursday night, John McCain announced Sarah Palin as his running mate.

Jeez. Where do I start? When I heard they picked the Governor from Alaska, I was pretty much shocked, then confused, then honestly, I just laughed. One thing I really appreciate about the Republicans is how disrespectful they are to those whom they claim to actually represent. It?s not that they think Americans are stupid, they KNOW we are and continue to act like it. In some weird way, I like that about them. But even most of my Republican friends admitted to me that they didn?t see this Harriet Myers special 2.0 coming. Sarah Palin? The chick hasn?t been in the Governor?s mansion for more than 20 months and already she?s under investigation for trying to fire her sister?s ex hubby, but she?s ?Ready To Lead Amurica with integrity?? Puulease? I mean, who?s running that campaign over there, the Tranny from I Want To Work For Diddy?

First, Barack Obama starts whipping your ass in the polls, so McCain and company put their thinking caps on and come up with the concept that he?s ?too popular to lead.?

Perfect. That makes sense. A cat who is trying to gain in popularity so he can win an election is now getting criticized for being popular. I completely get that. Next they cook up this tasty VP choice which is one part Republican Family Values play, one part Hillary Femi-Nazi pandering.

Right, because those pro Hillary women aren?t going to get that Palin basically stands in stark opposition to each and every position Hillary Clinton holds. Nah, they just care that she?s rolling with breasts and a vagina?.Come on now, she?s Pro Igloo, Anti Abortion Rights, Anti Sex Education (even though her daughter takes more Nordic Dack than a female Moose in heat), Pro Winter, Anti Seal and Pro Gun! How?s that going to motivate Hillary Democrats? Oh no, I know, they think that men are suddenly going to forget that they?re sexist and vote for her because she?s got such solid Milf appeal, right?

(Maybe it?s just me, but something aint right about this chick in the eyes)
And hell no I?m not impressed that she was the second runner up in the ?Miss Alaska Beauty Pageant? back in the 80?s. She?s decent looking, no question, but did yall see who actually won the crown that year?

Let?s face it, it?s Alaska. The standard aint that high. Borat had tighter hoes back home than Carlos Boozer ever saw before he went to college. Plus, the babes have to stay inside half the damn year. Trust me, they aint just burning whale blubber and eating baby seal to keep warm, either. Shoot, I knew a chick from Alaska in college and all she wanted to go is get freaky. [censored], sex is more popular in Alaska than hockey pucks, ice fishing and meth all combined. That?s why Palin has 4 errr 5 kids and her daughter has 2 errrr 1 errrr a baby on the way.

That?s right, her 17 year old daughter, Bristol Palin, you know the one who is benefiting from all those advanced ?prayer based? forms of contraception, has allowed Jesus, with the help of her boyfriend ?Twig,? to place an original sin inspired brick of Chunky Monkey in her belly piece and if you believe the blogs out here, this aint the first time either.

That Belly bump on the far right is no joke. Hey Bristol, just a little advice, when you live in Alaska where there is 24 hours of darkness for 4 months straight, ?girl Imma make luv to you to the break of dawn? might not be such a good motif to go by.

And now they?re on that, ?she?s in the process of marrying her boyfriend?.. Oh course she is. After all, nothing says ?conservative values? like doubling down on an already [censored]ed up situation by marrying the pimpled-faced, Igloo Eagle Scout who knocked you up in the first place.

Ha, supposedly this is the dude right here. Oh yeah, he?s definitely got that ?I?m about to marry that 17 year old chick I don?t really like because her mom needs me to in order to justify her ?do as I say, not as I do? political agenda.? It?s all in the eyes, he?s ready to do his duty for Amurica. AHNT

I know, I know, this Palin choice was ?fully vetted? and you GOP types were there when ole Twig was laying that Alaskan lumber to young Bristol. You knew all along that because of her mom?s political views, she?d be forced into the international spotlight as the very personification of your hypocritical and ineffective policy positions. Yep, she too is ready to take that bullet for Amurica?riiiight. haaaa

Even Cindy thinks you fuked this one up buddy.
All I can say is that I know for damn sure the Republicans are lucky Hurricane Gustav hit the Gulf Coast today and provided a little cover. Shiiiiit, that gave them the time they needed to get their stories straight. Did you see how quickly they canceled all their [censored]? Kind of reminded me how quick I was back in my school days to let someone else present first when I knew good and well I hadn?t done [censored] for that science project. Oh they?ll tell you they knew about this all along, but saying you knew a 17 year old was preggers is just a bold faced lie.

One thing that?s for sure, this guarandamntees that I?ll be watching Gov. Palin?s speech this week. Let me guess what she?ll say, this is ?a family matter? and her family ?needs time to deal with this, blah, blah blah, prayer, this isn?t political, but MY DAUGHTER IS KEEPING THE BABY because we respect life!!!!? haaaaaaa I love it.
You know what the Republicans should do? Keep Palin, dump McCain and nominate R. Kelly for President of the United States.

Now hold on, just think about it. It?d be all pandering, all the time. After all, is there a more religious man than R? Shoot, Jesus stays up in his songs, so the religious right will be happy. Then you?d be able to run him to black folks like he?s that viable alternative to Barack?right? That ought to make this historic run even more classy?. Then, and this is the kicker, we know he likes them young girls, so he?s literally be able to bang out Palin?s daughter ?til the break of dawn,? six months of darkness or not! And that?s before he offered to keep her warm while ?[censored] on you? played in the background, right? What, no go? ha
- Lake
??????-UPDATE????????
Are her kids really named Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper, and Trig? Jeez. Those sound like Paint colors?or wood finishes. What were Saddle, Rumpus, Vault, Rudder and Twist already taken? Are these kids or Transformers? This is great. The only better thing would be if the pregnant one was Piper. No, not because Piper is 7. Because a pregnant teen named Piper is funnier. You know nominal presidposition to actually getting ?piped?. My Bad.
-Brock
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But boy, even in the midst of a hurricane, this has stopped all media attention on Obama and it will be difficult to get it back for a week or two. From that point of view it's a stroke of genius.
Bad press may be diverting Obama attention, but I doubt that it is the diversion that Mac wanted...

The no sex education outside abstinence highlights an issue that they do not want to focus on to convince PUMA's to go with Palin, IMO.
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2. Here's my favorite Palin tidbit. It turns out that during the mid-‘90s, she was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, and, earlier this year, she delivered a welcoming address to the party, via video, urging its members to “keep up the good work.” That’s quite a fulsome greeting, considering the fact that one of the party tenets is that Alaskans should have the right to vote on whether to secede from the United States and form an independent republic.
And here's a particularly inspiring quote from AIP founder Joe Vogler: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America and her damned institutions."
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/a...l?text=xlg&c=y


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Or maybe she wasn't. Although your link is to a blog...

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After running an item yesterday alleging that Governor Palin was once a member of the Alaska Independence Party, Jake Tapper doesn't even bother to write a new item today to report that she is, in fact, a lifelong Republican. Instead, he simply updates the old post, and notes that this campaign has provided "some voter registration documentation."

We have provided ALL voter registration documentation, and the facts are clear. If the Alaska Independence Party at some point taught Governor Palin their secret handshake, there is no record of it. Otherwise, the only relevant criterion for membership in a party is registration--and Palin has never been a member of the AIP.

The Governor did appear at the AIP convention in 2000, when the convention was held in Wasilla. This would seem to be the only decent thing to do, given her responsibilities as Mayor of Wasilla, but apparently Tapper believes the press is owed further explanation.

Finally, Tapper notes that a spokesman for this campaign "would not comment as to why AIP officials are so convinced Palin was a member of their party." Apparently Tapper would not comment on how he managed to print a story that had absolutely no basis in fact.

See the Governor's voter registration document here.
On a side note, I think it's interesting that the linked post your reference was posted at 11:31 this morning, and contains information that says the information is contested by both sides, yet your cut and paste excluded that bit. Either it was updated sans timestamp in the last hour or so, or that was selective editing on your part.

Interesting viewpoint indeed.
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From what I have been reading, McCain wanted Joe L. or Ridge, but was under too much pressure from the right to go for a pro choice VP.
Just out of curiosity, who is your source? Why is it such a shock that John McCain has picked a candidate that echoes the party platform? Do you think Obama would have selected a pro-life, anti-affirmative action NRA member?

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Regardless of the substance, this is a distraction for the McCain campaign during the convention. It is taking media coverage away from them.... .
It's called good timing; remember this is a competition and by all accounts it has made the DNC convention forgotten.

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Plus, if more and more [censored] continues to surface about Palin, what does it say about McCain's decision making when his first major decision was off the cuff? It will bring in to question a central theme that Obama is trying to raise. Does John McCain have the right temperment to be president?
Is stuff coming out about Palin or her daughter? And by the way, when did we start making underage children 'fair game' in a campaign? I recall that a certain family made their daughter officially off-limits. Why can't this work both ways? I wonder about the people out there that have daughters (or sons) who know in the back of their heads that this could happen to them. Kids are kids - they make mistakes.

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Excuse me, but Rove in SC in 2000 is an example of Republican on Republican.
Does the picture of Obama with a turban or Hillary and Bill Clinton with Tony Rezco count as acceptable mudslinging since it was done by the (D) party?

Remember when Joe Biden was torched for plagiarizing a speech in 1988 by governor Dukakis?

In both cases the ends justfied the means.
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On a side note, I think it's interesting that the linked post your reference was posted at 11:31 this morning, and contains information that says the information is contested by both sides, yet your cut and paste excluded that bit. Either it was updated sans timestamp in the last hour or so, or that was selective editing on your part.

Interesting viewpoint indeed.
...

Moving along - more needless, completely unimportant color on Palin:

Barack Isn't the Only Baller In This Race

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Sarah Palin, basketball, politics

Barack Isn't the Only Baller In This Race


Barack Obama has gotten plenty of attention for his love of basketball, but it's worth noting that the GOP Veep candidate was a bit of a baller back in the day. Sarah Palin (nee Heath) was known as "Sarah Barracuda" (barracudas being the most tenacious on-ball defenders in the ocean) while captaining her high school basketball team. (She's #22 on the Wasilla squad.)

I'm not certain that Palin will select "body man" with basketball experience a la Obama with Reggie Love, but I assume that Trajan Langdon and Carlos Boozer are the early favorites.
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Or maybe she wasn't. Although your link is to a blog...

On a side note, I think it's interesting that the linked post your reference was posted at 11:31 this morning, and contains information that says the information is contested by both sides, yet your cut and paste excluded that bit. Either it was updated sans timestamp in the last hour or so, or that was selective editing on your part.

Interesting viewpoint indeed.
Lord. I'm bored waiting to be able to go back home, and so spend some time googling Palin issues for the poli board. As I do with most articles I post a link to, I try to find the one or two paragraphs that sums up what the alleged issue is about. I was hardly acting as an editor in picking the portion that says what it says wihout saying that the donkeys and elephants disagree. Let's just agree that everything posted here is contested by both sides, shall we?

Anyway, the point is to bring up the talking points. This one may be crap, but then so is the drivel about how being the Mayor of Mayberry Alaska is executive experience. When Andy put Otis in the tank he had no idea he was gaining chemical dependency experience.

Thank God you are here to set things aright tho...
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And by the way, when did we start making underage children 'fair game' in a campaign? I recall that a certain family made their daughter officially off-limits. Why can't this work both ways? I wonder about the people out there that have daughters (or sons) who know in the back of their heads that this could happen to them. Kids are kids - they make mistakes.
When their pinhead mom advocates legislation that keeps info about condoms, the birth control pill, morning after pill, etc, from my kids and your kids because abstinence only sex education can be taught, the fact that her little darling is getting knocked up by a hockey player while her hockey mom is out with the young ones is legitimate news.

She advocates no information on birth control and her kid gets pregnant.

Brilliant!!
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I would rather have a pinhead like her than a pinhead who tells kids all about it which along with peer pressure amounts to an ok for the kids to have sex. And then everyone goes tsk tsk. when some 12 year old girl has sex or gets pregnant.

But the best way is for the parents to lead their kids along the right way.

Why don't you just argue for or against without calling names
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Is there any reason why no one is pointing out that Sarah Palin, shown here:




Starred in the movie "Baby Mama"? I mean, it's one thing that her daughter is preggers, but to star in a satirical comedy... honestly, that's not change we can believe in.

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