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Old 09-11-2008, 06:14 AM
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I think it is funny how the liberals have discounted and demeaned a woman candidate. Mrs. Palin is obviously a conservative. I wonder if they view her different from Hillary? In fact the media did a lot to smear the Clinton campaign as well.

The media is a bunch of hyprocrites. They slant nearly everything they report or is it make up? It would be sad if it were not so obvious.

As Senator Obama says it is time for a change, but what, exactly, is the change he plans?

Obviously I tend to be a conservative, and McCain and Palin get one vote here in Ohio.
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Second.......(from the article) That says a lot right there........
Not if she ran as member of another party. I believe her husband's a registered dem, so I wouldn't be surprised to learn that members of his side of the family are largely dems too.
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Is there something wrong when you are attracted to a candidate for the Vice President of the United States?

Middle Aged Fogey here!
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Has anyone else been struck by this resemblence:



I could see them having some real fun with this one on 30 Rock. I also wonder if SNL will want Fey to come back and play Palin for skits this fall.
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I could see them having some real fun with this one on 30 Rock. I also wonder if SNL will want Fey to come back and play Palin for skits this fall.
Hit me immediately when I saw her at the RNC... could be some funny stuff.
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Tina Fey is right there with Nicole Kidman IMO.

And I hate to relay the news, but Palin in the mini is a photoshop. (Unfortunately I didn't learn that til after I gummed up my lap top.
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I think it is funny how the liberals have discounted and demeaned a woman candidate.
They have discounted and demeaned her stupid abstinence only position, and the fact that she has no problem lying about her record, slight tho it may be when compared to others who have been nominated to the position.

But her legions of stupid admirers* will overlook all substantive issues because she hunts and is good looking, and will accept as true the lies about the plane sold on E-bay and her lies about the Bridge to Nowhere. And the fact that she comes from the most heavily subsidized state in the union will be lost on most too. I think she comes from the classical ultra right wing evangelical wack job mold that the base so loves.

A great pick for McCain, as he is hiding behind her skirts while she attacks Obama, and then when she is called on her attacks, they say "Why is Obama responding to her, he should respond to McCain." When coupled with the absolutely false and sleazy ads about how Obama wants to teach sex education to five year olds, it suddenly reminds me of what a immoral, lying, hypocritical pool of feces the Republican Party has become.

I continue to predict a McCain win in November.






(*Her many, many intelligent admirers will like her for her opposition to corrupt party leaders at an undoubted personal political cost and her steadfast opposition to abortion, even when that challenge was met on a personal level, and her attempts to cost cut while Governor. She is obviously no dummy.)

Edit: In no way am I saying that any BP poster, and certainly not Apache, who I quoted, is among the group of "stupid" posters I mentioned. But I overheard two morons talking at lunch today about the election, and it appears that they are willing to vote for the President of the United States based upon the Veep's love of I-shot-it Moose burgers.

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But her legions of stupid admirers* will overlook all substantive issues because she hunts and is good looking, and will accept as true the lies about the plane sold on E-bay and her lies about the Bridge to Nowhere.
Funny thing... those weren't lies.
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? Did Palin put a state jet up for sale on eBay?
Yes, but it didn't sell.
"That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay."
That's what Palin told the Republican convention and she has repeated it in speeches ever since. The McCain campaign has held up the eBay story as a symbol of Palin's frugality and commitment to reform. But the plane never sold on eBay.
(Emphasis mine)
She said she put it up on ebay, she didn't say she necessarily sold it via ebay (although she did sell it).
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This is not the first time Palin has cited her choice to kill the bridge in 2007 as an example of her anti-waste stance. It?s true that she did eventually nix the project. But the bridge was nearly dead already
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Again, what she said was true. It's a factual matter.

But her legions of stupid detractors* seem to have difficulty in accepting this, and continue to put forth that since more was intimated with her catch phrases, then they're obviously lies, despite the fact that they are technically correct.

(*Her many, many intelligent detractors will be able to vocalize their disdain for her regarding legitimate reasons, and not over technically accurate catch phrases. They'll realize it's a losing battle.)
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Gina Gershon Strips Down Sarah Palin from Gina Gershon

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They have discounted and demeaned her stupid abstinence only position, and the fact that she has no problem lying about her record, slight tho it may be when compared to others who have been nominated to the position.

But her legions of stupid admirers* will overlook all substantive issues because she hunts and is good looking, and will accept as true the lies about the plane sold on E-bay and her lies about the Bridge to Nowhere. And the fact that she comes from the most heavily subsidized state in the union will be lost on most too. I think she comes from the classical ultra right wing evangelical wack job mold that the base so loves.

A great pick for McCain, as he is hiding behind her skirts while she attacks Obama, and then when she is called on her attacks, they say "Why is Obama responding to her, he should respond to McCain." When coupled with the absolutely false and sleazy ads about how Obama wants to teach sex education to five year olds, it suddenly reminds me of what a immoral, lying, hypocritical pool of feces the Republican Party has become.

I continue to predict a McCain win in November.






(*Her many, many intelligent admirers will like her for her opposition to corrupt party leaders at an undoubted personal political cost and her steadfast opposition to abortion, even when that challenge was met on a personal level, and her attempts to cost cut while Governor. She is obviously no dummy.)

Edit: In no way am I saying that any BP poster, and certainly not Apache, who I quoted, is among the group of "stupid" posters I mentioned. But I overheard two morons talking at lunch today about the election, and it appears that they are willing to vote for the President of the United States based upon the Veep's love of I-shot-it Moose burgers.
Come on Gator, every campaign does that. The VP's only real function as a candidate is to rile up the base and be a bulldog against the other party...thus the effective ones were guys like Gore and Cheney, and the ineffective ones were guys like Kemp (who I admire personally but was heavily criticized for being way too nice to Clinton/Gore) and Quayle (who couldn't even spell Clinton/Gore). Yes, she's a woman, but otherwise the tactic isn't anything new. As for the sleazy ads, well, that's pretty much a two-way street as well, though I haven't seen as many from Obama...but it is early yet, and as he falls further behind, he's going to be in a bind, because he either has to stick to his "above the fray" guns or go negative and look like a hypocrite.
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Has anyone else been struck by this resemblence:



I could see them having some real fun with this one on 30 Rock. I also wonder if SNL will want Fey to come back and play Palin for skits this fall.
I'd give Alexander Hamilton a free shot if I could hit either one of those two trinkets.
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I'd give Alexander Hamilton a free shot if I could hit either one of those two trinkets.
Didn't you give him one?
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Didn't you give him one?
His bitch ass laying in a pool of his own blood indicates it wasn't free.
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