Ex-Alaska Governor Sarah Palin (Official)

[Bucklion]

Originally Posted by buckeyes_rock

Wow, that's tough. I certainly can't speak for all women, but personally I think it's crazy to think that a woman would vote for McCain simply because he picked a female for a VP. I'd like to think that most women are smart enough to look at what a candidate stands for before they blindly vote.

I would never have voted for Hillary, and that has nothing to do with her gender. I have to say, Palin very much intrigues me though. She seems to be very much her own woman. We shall see.

It certainly didn't work for Mondale and Ferraro, to reinforce your point.

[Bucklion]

Originally Posted by MuckFich06

Bottom line: Obama made a grown up pick based on who was most qualified. McCain made a pure political ploy. We'll see if it works.

Oh please. Obama looked at the response to his candidacy, determined what everyone was hammering him for, then he picked the person who best filled in or addressed those gaps. McCain has done the same thing. Time will tell who chose best, or if it even matters, but to somehow imply Obama made some sort of selfless pick based on qualifications or the good of the country as opposed to boosting his own candidacy is ridiculous at best.

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by BayBuck

The timing was definitely aimed at deflating the Obama speech bump, but as I mentioned in McCain's thread, the VP pick is mostly about image for the campaign (hello Mr. Experience Joe Biden), and this one does a lot for the McCain campaign:

-out-of-nowhere woman outsider pick gets the "wow" media factor and lots of pub;
-attractive woman (former Miss Alaska runner-up) helps offset really-old white guy McCain image, and of course appeals to Hillary/feminist voters;
-Washington outsider with executive experience (and very high approval ratings) and ethics background;
-NRA member, hunting and fishing enthusiast;
-Eskimo husband (high-school sweetheart and snowmobile champ) will be a media darling, son will be going to Iraq this month;
-fiscal conservative and pro-life good for the right;
-reasonable positions on the gay marriage issue that probably won't offend either side;
-Alaska background brings a personal touch to the drilling discussion...

There are a lot of conservative concerns and interest groups (and fence-sitters, especially those previously inclined toward Hillary) who will find something to like about this pick.

son on active duty, set to ship out to the sandbox in september.

interesting pick.

[BUCKYLE]

Originally Posted by buckeyes_rock

Wow, raising your standards I see.

Capable of being VP. She's already more than qualified for a night with the BUCKYLE.

[AKAKBUCK]

Originally Posted by MuckFich06

Bottom line: Obama made a grown up pick based on who was most qualified. McCain made a pure political ploy. We'll see if it works.

Well took less than 2 hours for her thread to have more posts than Biden's.

So, MuckFich, tell me, how close to vomiting did you come once you rolled this over in your head a few times?

[cincibuck]

Originally Posted by Bucklion

It's actually a very intelligent pick...no one other than conservatives wants a conservative like Romney right now, and they won't be what wins McCain the election if he does. Plus, you'll have butt-sockets like Keith Olbermann trashing the pick for every pretentious reason known to man (or woman), from eye candy to here's another one McCain wants to hit to she has no qualifications to...whatever, which of course will rile up certain people, possibly enough to switch sides. McCain had nothing to lose with this pick, whereas he really had little to gain from any of the others.

I was really intrigued by the McCain of 2000, but the current guy seems bent on self destruction.

Unless this is an attempt to reestablish his cred as a maverick, this picks seems to reflect more on who doesn't want to be on the ticket w/ McCain, than who he thinks rounds out his ticket.

It would have been interestng to see if Romney would have brought about an anti-Mormon vote... and that may be the real reason he didn't get the call...
or if Romney is lookng at 2012.

I sure don't see McCain as anything but a 1 shot candidate, win or lose and Palin would have to come a long way to be ready to run for POTUS.

Sure will do much to bring the Stephens trial in to sharper focus.

[CookyPuss]

Originally Posted by AKAKBUCK

Well took less than 2 hours for her thread to have more posts than Biden's.

So, MuckFich, tell me, how close to vomiting did you come once you rolled this over in your head a few times?

Not at all. I just find it an absurd pick. Surely there are more qualified women in the Republican party. Kay Bailey Hutchison? Libby Dole?

[scooter1369]

Good choice or bad choice, either way, come November, we'll have either elected a black man as president or a female as vice-president. Which historic moment will the country choose?

[AKAKBUCK]

Originally Posted by cincibuck

Unless this is an attempt to reestablish his cred as a maverick,

Precisely... if McCain this dampens the "experience attack angle" on Obama, this dampens the "More of the same" attack from Obama.

Romney wasn't ever going to get it because you don't need to "get" the far right, you need to "get" the center. (And make a splash). You don't need to mollify the religious right (even if the guy is mormon) they arent' voting for Obama... EVER.

Self destruction, cinci? The RNC is in control of the show now... and they are running the play book. They aren't 7-3 in Presidential elections with the smaller party since '68 because they are morons.

[AKAKBUCK]

Originally Posted by MuckFich06

Not at all. I just find it an absurd pick. Surely there are more qualified women in the Republican party. Kay Bailey Hutchison? Libby Dole?

ahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

There are a zillion 'more qualified democrats' than Obama... just no one gives a [censored] about them.

[OH10]

Man, this is a good pick for McCain. I think we'll find out Monday when the polls come out the impact. But damn, good pick. Pay that man his money.

[CookyPuss]

Originally Posted by AKAKBUCK

ahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

There are a zillion 'more qualified democrats' than Obama... just no one gives a [censored] about them.

That's exactly correct. Obama offers a unique biography and skill set that blunts the experience argument.

I could understand the Palin pick more if she had some national following or great economic experience (Whitman or Fiorina). But with this pick, McCain seems to be moving away from his strongest argument: experience.

[LitlBuck]

If I were the Democratic Party, I would tell Chuck Schumer to keep his pie hole shut. He said that he could not wait for the VP debate in Missouri by saying that Biden better really knock some socks off. He should remember that Palin defeated a man in the run for the governorship of Alaska. I know this is a much bigger stage but I believe she will hold their own against old Joe and I wonder how Hillary really does feel.

[scooter1369]

I think its a brilliant pick.

[AKAKBUCK]

Originally Posted by MuckFich06

That's exactly correct. Obama offers a unique biography and skill set that blunts the experience argument.

I could understand the Palin pick more if she had some national following or great economic experience (Whitman or Fiorina). But with this pick, McCain seems to be moving away from his strongest argument: experience.

See post #54