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09-19-2008, 10:00 PM
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Better nickname: Sarah Quaylin or Sarah Palyin'?
         
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09-21-2008, 09:58 PM
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If this had been a liberal commentator... just sayin'.
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09-22-2008, 11:12 AM
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Based on your statement if you believe that the democratic party will keep the promises they have made before being elected, you might just be an idiot. (Hope and Change Anyone?) If you believe that Congress does not have the ability to affect the price of fuel in this country you would have to be an idiot. Many factors affect the price of oil but if you believe the financial experts the futures market was one of the largest influences. When our country consumes 1/4 of the global crude market and we refuse to drill on our own soil and build new refineries because of our legislators? We are the idiots. When the drilling debate started to heat up we saw a huge drop in the price of crude. It still hovers around $100 a barrel mostly because of the futures market. Can congress affect the price of crude? You bet your sweet ass they can!
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09-22-2008, 11:15 AM
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09-22-2008, 11:18 AM
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09-22-2008, 11:26 AM
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Just keeping if from degenerating any further... 
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09-22-2008, 12:15 PM
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Personally, I hated the pick for two reasons: 1) It may have prevented an Obama landslide; 2) It proved that I should be worried about a possible McCain Presidency - for while I disagreed with him on many issues, I always believed that he was genuine in his love for country over personal gain, i.e. politics. It was a purely political move, which sort of diminishes McCain's character for me.
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09-23-2008, 02:35 AM
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09-23-2008, 04:23 PM
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Palin's Troopergate Moves Getting Bad Reviews in Alaska - TIME
For many Alaskans, all this maneuvering is a bit too clever. Palin's jockeying doesn't just clash with her previous image as a good-government reformer. It strikes some here almost as a matter of state sovereignty. There was grumbling when the McCain campaign brought in a high-powered cheechako (that's an outsider), former federal terrorism prosecutor Ed O'Callaghan, to dictate the governor's strategy and deal with the media. The campaign's public bashing of Monegan, a widely respected longtime public official in the state, didn't help its case. Now that O'Callaghan's hardball tactics are becoming clearer, the complaints have grown louder, from all sides of the political spectrum. As the Anchorage Daily News wrote in a blistering op—ed over the weekend: "Is it too much to ask that Alaska's governor speak for herself, directly to Alaskans, about her actions as Alaska's governor?" One longtime observer — a Palin fan who says she's done "brilliant" things in the state — worried aloud to me over coffee in downtown Anchorage that allowing the McCain campaign to antagonize both parties in the legislature on her behalf could even lead to her eventual impeachment, if her bid to become Vice President fails and she returns to the state with a little less political luster.
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09-23-2008, 06:20 PM
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Mean girl | Salon News
Even though Palin knew that Stein is a Protestant Christian, from a Pennsylvania Dutch background, her campaign began circulating the word that she would be "Wasilla's first Christian mayor." Some of Stein's supporters interpreted this as an attempt to portray Stein as Jewish in the heavily evangelical community. Stein himself, an eminently reasonable and reflective man, thinks "they were redefining Christianity to mean born-agains." The Palin campaign also started another vicious whisper campaign, spreading the word that Stein and his wife -- who had chosen to keep her own last name when they were married -- were not legally wed. Again, Palin knew the truth, Stein said, but chose to muddy the waters. "We actually had to produce our marriage certificate," recalled Stein, whose wife died of breast cancer in 2005 without ever reconciling with Palin. "I had a hand in creating Sarah, but in the end she blew me out of the water," Stein said, sounding more wearily ironic than bitter. "Sarah's on a mission, she's an opportunist." According to some political observers in Alaska, this pattern -- exploiting "old-boy" mentors and then turning against them for her own advantage -- defines Sarah Palin's rise to power. Again and again, Palin has charmed powerful political patrons, and then rejected them when it suited her purposes. She has crafted a public image as a clean politics reformer, but in truth, she has only blown the whistle on political corruption when it was expedient for her to do so. Above all, Palin is a dynamo of ambition, shrewdly maneuvering her way through the notoriously compromised world of Alaska politics, making and breaking alliances along the way.
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09-23-2008, 06:50 PM
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Salon.com News | The pastor who clashed with Palin
Another valley activist, Philip Munger, says that Palin also helped push the evangelical drive to take over the Mat-Su Borough school board. "She wanted to get people who believed in creationism on the board," said Munger, a music composer and teacher. "I bumped into her once after my band played at a graduation ceremony at the Assembly of God. I said, 'Sarah, how can you believe in creationism -- your father's a science teacher.' And she said, 'We don't have to agree on everything.' "I pushed her on the earth's creation, whether it was really less than 7,000 years old and whether dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. And she said yes, she'd seen images somewhere of dinosaur fossils with human footprints in them." Munger also asked Palin if she truly believed in the End of Days, the doomsday scenario when the Messiah will return. "She looked in my eyes and said, 'Yes, I think I will see Jesus come back to earth in my lifetime.'" Bess is unnerved by the prospect of Palin -- a woman whose mind is given to dogmatic certitude -- standing one step away from the Oval Office. "It's truly frightening that someone like Sarah has risen to the national level," Bess said. "Like all religious fundamentalists -- Christian, Jewish, Muslim -- she is a dualist. They view life as an ongoing struggle to the finish between good and evil. Their mind-set is that you do not do business with evil -- you destroy it. Talking with the enemy is not part of their plan. That puts someone like Obama on the side of evil.
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09-23-2008, 07:26 PM
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Sarah Palin vs. Joe "hairplugs" Biden
Palin shops at the Buckeye Corner and this is what Biden just said to the University of Delaware football team. Speaking to members of the University of Delaware football team Friday morning, the Democratic VP candidate said he thinks the Fightin Blue Hens (1-1 this season) could thrash a certain team from Ohio. "I was out in Ohio," he said while fiddling with a football in his hands. "I told the folks in Ohio that we'd kick Ohio State's ass!" Do the patriotic thing, Vote McCain/Palin!!!!!
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09-23-2008, 07:54 PM
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I'd be more worried if the Senator from Delaware supported a team from Ohio.
He says you are afraid to schedule them. Well - have you ever?  If I ever ran for national office, I'd get 0 votes from Georgia. 
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09-23-2008, 07:57 PM
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09-23-2008, 07:58 PM
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Skinny elitist pr ick! 
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