Ex-Alaska Governor Sarah Palin (Official)

[Gatorubet]

Palin Talks Russia With Katie Couric (VIDEO)

Video on how her seeing Russia from her house is foreign policy experience.

[Gatorubet]

In her interview with Katie Couric Sarah Palin essentially called Henry Kissinger naive and also proved that she just hasn't done her homework.

Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of State
Henry Kissinger, who is for direct diplomacy with both Iran
and Syria. Do you believe the U.S. should negotiate with
leaders like President Assad and Ahmadinejad?

Palin: I think, with Ahmadinejad, personally, he is not one
to negotiate with. You can't just sit down with him with no
preconditions being met. Barack Obama is so off-base in his
proclamation that he would meet with some of these
leaders around our world who would seek to destroy
America and that, and without preconditions being met.
That's beyond naive. And it's beyond bad judgment.

Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger ...

Palin: It's dangerous.

Couric: ... is naive for supporting that?

Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll
meet with these leaders without preconditions being met."
Diplomacy is about doing a lot of background work first and
shoring up allies and positions and figuring out what sanctions
perhaps could be implemented if things weren't gonna go right.
That's part of diplomacy.

Actually. That's exactly Henry Kissinger's position. And Couric even
went ahead and confirmed it with Kissinger after the interview. Here is
what Kissinger said just last week at a forum of five secretaries of
state.

[osucollegebuck]

Is that any worse than not knowing who the president was during 1929 as was the case for a.k.a Joe "hairplugs" Biden.

[generaladm]

Originally Posted by osucollegebuck

Is that any worse than not knowing who the president was during 1929 as was the case for a.k.a Joe "hairplugs" Biden.

Link?

EDIT: Considering that Biden did not meet with Hoover hours beforehand, yes.

Side note: the acronym "a.k.a." means "also known as". Thus, it is necessary to identify the subject before usage, e.g. "Joe Biden, a.k.a. 'hairplugs'". Otherwise, it is best to designate the "nickname" without the qualifier, e.g. "as was the case for Joe 'hairplugs' Biden".

[fourteenandoh]

Originally Posted by generaladm

Link?

just google it, the first few pages will give you links to various blogs and articles. he said it was FDR

[generaladm]

Originally Posted by fourteenandoh

just google it, the first few pages will give you links to various blogs and articles. he said it was FDR

I'm not the one trying to make the point, therefore, the onus is on collegebuck. Furthermore, there is a chance that if I google it, I will reach a different link. (not probable, but the case remains, if you reference something, provide a quote or link. We're not dealing with Daytonbuck.)

Side note: as I was typing that, "google" was spellchecked as incorrect (as was spellchecked), odd.

[sandgk]

Originally Posted by osucollegebuck

Is that any worse than not knowing who the president was during 1929 as was the case for a.k.a Joe "hairplugs" Biden.

Actually, I'd say it is.

[CapnStubby]

Originally Posted by MuckFich06

Give me one example of how Palin has bucked the party line.

WSJ Article on Palin
Profile of Alaska's Sarah Palin:
Governor, Reformer, Mother
By JIM CARLTON
August 31, 2008 5:51 p.m.


"She took on not only a sitting governor from her own party but also Alaska's Republican establishment -- vowing to clean up a political system that had been rocked by an Federal Bureau of Investigation corruption probe.

After handily winning, her popularity in Alaska soared as she went on to sack political appointees with close ties to industry lobbyists."

Originally Posted by MuckFich06

And please, don't try the Bridge to Nowhere nonsense.

Please get the real facts on the bridge to nowhere and just not your marching orders. Just like all pork projects, they start out with a budget that seems somewhat reasonable and then by the time they pile on the earmarks it becomes this fricking nightmare.

Fact 1: At some level Governor Palin showed support for the bridge project while she was running in the race for Governor of Alaska.


Fact 2: Congress made the money for the Gravina Island Bridge available to Alaska, although it didn't have to be used for that bridge.


Fact 3: The State of Alaska already had the federal funds in hand when Gov. Palin took office.


Fact 4: Governor Palin put a stop to the bridge project and appropriated the funds for more reasonable uses.

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by Gatorubet

In her interview with Katie Couric Sarah Palin essentially called Henry Kissinger naive and also proved that she just hasn't done her homework.

It takes a lot of dead brain cells to call a true realpolitik naive. But hey, does it really matter? I mean if Mac gets elected the administration is going to bomb/give Israel the go ahead to bomb Iran anyway. So it doesn't really matter.

[buckeyegrad]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

It takes a lot of dead brain cells to call a true realpolitik naive. But hey, does it really matter? I mean if Mac gets elected the administration is going to bomb/give Israel the go ahead to bomb Iran anyway. So it doesn't really matter.

Do you really think Israel, if it feels there is a potential nuclear threat from Iran, is not going to bomb them if we don't want them to? I am sure they would like our support prior to bombing, but not having it is not likely going to stop them.

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by buckeyegrad

Do you really think Israel, if it feels there is a potential nuclear threat from Iran, is not going to bomb them if we don't want them to? I am sure they would like our support prior to bombing, but not having it is not likely going to stop them.

The answer is no, so that goes along with me saying that it doesn't matter.

[buckeyegrad]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

The answer is no, so that goes along with me saying that it doesn't matter.

I guess I read your "it doesn't matter" differently, as in saying it doesn't matter what Palin understands/thinks of Kissinger's position (that was the context you made your comment, correct?). I wanted to expand your "it doesn't matter" to the larger issue of who is in the White House in terms of Israel's potential to bomb Iran if they feel a threat.

[FCollinsBuckeye]

Got this in my email last night:

There were lots of pics, I only attached a few.

Psssst...pass it on!

[The] Alaska Women Reject Palin rally was to be held outside on the lawn in front of the Loussac Library in midtown Anchorage. Home made signs were encouraged, and the idea was to make a statement that Sarah Palin does not speak for all Alaska women, or men. I had no idea what to expect.

The rally was organized by a small group of women, talking over coffee. It made me wonder what other things have started with small groups of women talking over coffee. It's probably an impressive list. These women hatched the plan, printed up flyers, posted them around town, and sent notices to local media outlets. One of those media outlets was KBYR radio, home of Eddie Burke, a long-time uber-conservative Anchorage talk show host. Turns out that Eddie Burke not only announced the rally, but called the people who planned to attend the rally "a bunch of socialist baby-killing maggots," and read the home phone numbers of the organizers aloud over the air, urging listeners to call and tell them what they thought. The women, of course, received some nasty, harassing and threatening messages.

I felt a bit apprehensive. I'd been disappointed before by the turnout at other rallies. Basically, in Anchorage, if you can get 25 people to show up at an event, it's a success. So, I thought to myself, if we can actually get 100 people there that aren't sent by Eddie Burke, we'll be doing good. A real statement will have been made. I confess, I still had a mental image of 15 demonstrators surrounded by hundreds of menacing "socialist baby-killing maggot" haters.

It's a good thing I wasn't tailgating when I saw the crowd in front of the library or I would have ended up in somebody's trunk. When I got there, about 20 minutes early, the line of sign wavers stretched the full length of the library grounds, along the edge of the road, 6 or 7 people deep! I could hardly find a place to park. I nabbed one of the last spots in the library lot, and as I got out of the car and started walking, people seemed to join in from every direction, carrying signs.

Never, have I seen anything like it in my 17 and a half years living in Anchorage. The organizers had someone walk the rally with a counter, and they clicked off well over 1400 people (not including the 90 counter-demonstrators). This was the biggest political rally ever, in the history of the state. I was absolutely stunned. The second most amazing thing is how many people honked and gave the thumbs up as they drove by. And even those that didn't honk looked wide-eyed and awe-struck at the huge crowd that was growing by the minute. This just doesn't happen here.

Then, the infamous Eddie Burke showed up. He tried to talk to the media, and was instantly surrounded by a group of 20 people who started shouting O-BA-MA so loud he couldn't be heard. Then passing cars started honking in a rhythmic pattern of 3, like the Obama chant, while the crowd cheered, hooted and waved their signs high.

So, if you've been doing the math? Yes. The Alaska Women Reject Palin rally was significantly bigger than Palin's rally that got all the national media coverage! So take heart, sit back, and enjoy the photo gallery. Feel free to spread the pictures around to anyone who needs to know that Sarah Palin most definitely does not speak for all Alaskans. The citizens of Alaska, who know her best, have things to say.

A bunch of pictures of that rally:

[jlb1705]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

wow. It's like watching ms. south carolina all over again. Only I wish i could laugh about this one.

"I personally believe the U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some, uh...people out there in our nation don't have maps, and, uh, I believe that our border like such as Russia and, uh, the Alaska everywhere like, such as and... I believe that they should, our bailout over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., err, uh, should help job creation and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our health care for our..."

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by buckeyegrad

I guess I read your "it doesn't matter" differently, as in saying it doesn't matter what Palin understands/thinks of Kissinger's position (that was the context you made your comment, correct?). I wanted to expand your "it doesn't matter" to the larger issue of who is in the White House in terms of Israel's potential to bomb Iran if they feel a threat.

"it doesn't matter" because in my pessimistic outlook on history, Iran will be bombed in the next year or two, regardless of who gets elected. So the debate over whether to have a direct dialogue in actuality does not hold that much significance.

But Palin's interpretation of the situation does matter, in the sense that the spirit of her statement sounds like a position that will not lead to any other ending but war. That is pretty much the position that the Bush administration adopted prewar Iraq, and it leaves no room for realpolitik solutions that may be a stretch, but may prove useful. So in that sense, Palin's position is not only ignorant but also uncomfortably hawkish as well.