Ex-Alaska Governor Sarah Palin (Official)

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by OSUsushichic

My mother told me today that she would never vote for McCain with Palin as the VP candidate. She's hearing that a lot in Republican country, even among her military friends. McCain might lose anyway, but his VP pick certainly didn't help him at all.

I'm not surprised.

I'm still having issues deciding if I care at this point but that doesn't have a lot to do with Palin.....

[OH10]

Originally Posted by OSUsushichic

So, the principal of a high school is qualified to be VP because they have management experience? Hell, I have management experience. That doesn't mean I'm ready to lead the country if McCain dies.

Anything can happen to the president -- heart attack, car accident, choking on pretzels, etc. That's why the VP should be qualified to lead the damn country.

Ummm... she did advocate bringing General McClellan back from the dead. (at least that's how I interpreted it). Assuming she could do the same with other great American leaders, I think she'd be more than capable of surrounding herself with the best advisors.

[sandgk]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

that wasn't the tune when Kerry was trotting out Edwards.

But, eh, 72 years old - cancer 4 times - there are entirely reasonable concerns.

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

That wasn't the tune when Cheney essentially nominated himself.

Eh, asymmetric - younger President, older VP, beside which questions of Cheney's health were, legitimately, raised.

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

It's a sign of weakness to even have to debate this due to the "heartbeat away" criterion.

Mmm, beg to differ you are buying both parts of the ticket.

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

And given that, Biden should worry EVERYONE. The man is a moron, but he is, yes, IRRELEVANT.

Cheney anyone,?

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

People aren't voting for the VP, they are voting the top of the ticket like it or not.

Well, actually, like it or not, a lot of people got revved up when the Moose Dresser was added to the ticket by Johhny. If they were only voting for the top of the ticket, that wouldn't have happened.

Likewise, in recent weeks Palin's negatives have seriously hit the McCain ticket.

If they are, as you profess, only voting for the top of the ticket, they shouldn't give a [censored].

But the voters do care, and in growing numbers they are rejecting her.

Case in point - it is reported now that she was loudly booed during the "puck drop" at the Flyers game. But, think of it, if the "hockey mom" can't win over hockey fans, doesn't that say something about her sinking currency?

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by sandgk

Case in point - it is reported now that she was loudly booed during the "puck drop" at the Flyers game. But, think of it, if the "hockey mom" can't win over hockey fans, doesn't that say something about her sinking currency?

Would she have been loudly booed in Nashville? Or how about Dallas? Or Tampa?

Philly isn't her territory. That was a completely stupid decision made by the campaign but that in and of itself isn't surprising to me....

and as a side note, I don't know if I'd use Philly as the greatest of examples. I mean they DID cheer that a guy had a neck injury and they DID boo Santa Claus

[sandgk]

Originally Posted by jimotis4heisman

sushi come on. shes the govenor of a state.

Palin (part-time) governs a State with a population roughly equivalent to Oklahoma City.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by sandgk

Palin (part-time) governs a State with a population roughly equivalent to Oklahoma City.

What has Obama governed?

You want to talk about asymmetric, how about the Obama campaign railing against Palin's experience when the top of their ticket is just as weak in the experience area?

That is yet ANOTHER thing the McCain campaign failed to exploit IMO.

[sandgk]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

Would she have been loudly booed in Nashville? Or how about Dallas?

Philly isn't her territory. That was a completely stupid decision made by the campaign but that in and of itself isn't surprising to me....

Well now, that is absolutely true - a stupid decision.

But, there may be more to this than simply location.

Those rallies shown on the news are all very carefully screened.

Cannot do that with a hockey game.

I'd bet the "welcome" in any location would be less wonderful than the McCain campaign predicts.

(Did I mention I agree with you that the McCain campaign is one of the worst run I've ever seen in my lifetime? Seriously, badly amateurish.)

[OSUsushichic]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

What has Obama governed?

I didn't realize being a governor was required (or even preferred) for office. Bush was a governor, and look how that turned out.

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by sandgk

Palin (part-time) governs a State with a population roughly equivalent to Oklahoma City.

part time?

what is it 15k employees 12b state budget?

[OSUsushichic]

Originally Posted by jimotis4heisman

part time?

what is it 15k employees 12b state budget?

Who's running the state while she's campaigning?

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by sandgk

Well now, that is absolutely true - a stupid decision.

But, there may be more to this than simply location.

Those rallies shown on the news are all very carefully screened.

Cannot do that with a hockey game.

I'd bet the "welcome" in any location would be less wonderful than the McCain campaign predicts.

(Did I mention I agree with you that the McCain campaign is one of the worst run I've ever seen in my lifetime? Seriously, badly amateurish.)

I don't know about ever. Kerry's was pretty bad, but it's easily top 3 probably.

I think the McCain campaign is a mirror of what is going on within the GOP. It's a party in a state of flux. They had the PResidency and Congress for 6 full years for the first time since around the time of the Korean War and yet failed to do virtually anything they wanted to do going back as far as 2000 much less 1994.

Sure 9/11 intervened, but while they could have made serious inroads into getting a lasting majority and legacy, we have a split electorate with sufficiently militarized wings on both sides I do wonder sometimes what the conclusion of the next 2 decades might be.....

A lot of the Congress-critters in the GOP lost sight of what they got elected for and the electorate kicked them out starting really in 1998 but accelerating in 2004 and 2006. And the only people that truly should shoulder the blame are those people and the GOP "leadership" that kept saying everything was ok.

Maybe being the minority in all ways shapes and forms will do them some good and re-focus them, but I kinda don't see it happening for a while unless Obama is truly as bad as I think he'll be sometimes....of course he'll have no help from his side either (Peloser is her own type of moron) so it might not be totally his fault either I guess....

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by OSUsushichic

I didn't realize being a governor was required (or even preferred) for office. Bush was a governor, and look how that turned out.

I didn't make the point out of a lack of experience. The liberals did.

Now seriously, what has Obama governed?

[sandgk]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

Now seriously, what has Obama governed?

Given the tenor of the campaign these last two weeks, I'd say he has governed his temper quite well.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by sandgk

Given the tenor of the campaign these last two weeks, I'd say he has governed his temper quite well.

That's an answer at least.

Although he's bumming smokes (tsk tsk) at an alarming rate

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by OSUsushichic

Who's running the state while she's campaigning?

for what a month? who has been in the senate watching the worst week on wall st ever? who has watched the market go from 14k into the 7s... (the answer is not obama, not mccain and not biden)

you wont find me advocating for any of these 4. just setting some facts inline...