Ex-Alaska Governor Sarah Palin (Official)

[Flocka]

Originally Posted by Buckeye86

I fail to see the difference.

Moderate politcally, as in conservative, moderate, or liberal. A moderate would spend more than a conservative. Two different spectrums.

[buckeyefool]

Originally Posted by sepia5

Obama hasn't made McCain's age an issue at all thus far, which really is representative of the relatively clean campaign he's run to this point. . But to be honest, this VP selection makes McCain's age and health all the more relevant and I think it is time to go after him on this issue.

The republican would probally love for Obama to go after McCain's age. I'm an attack like that would sit well with the AARP and other such senior lobbist groups.

[cincibuck]

Having long ago made up my mind on who to vote for, I really can't be objective in this discussion. It seems to me that McCain didn't get the person he wanted and thus went for impact. But what has really surprised me is the enthusiasm I'm reading from the Repubs on this site.

How would you folks (the Repubs) describe yourselves? A) Moderates B) Fiscal and Legal conservatives C) Social conservatives D) America Firsters E) Buchannan followers

How many of you think Bush has been a good president?

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by Buckeye86

I fail to see the difference.

NVM

[Buckeye86]

Originally Posted by bigballin2987

Moderate politcally, as in conservative, moderate, or liberal. A moderate would spend more than a conservative. Two different spectrums.

wouldn't increasing the national debt more than any other president in the history of the United States make Bush a "liberal" spender if that's the case

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by Buckeye86

wouldn't increasing the national debt more than any other president in the history of the United States make Bush a "liberal" spender

Whatever you want to call it....but actually his military spending has been the most liberal part. He is more moderate on the social spending side of things.....

He's a political moderate....conservative on some issues, liberal on others.....

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by buckeyefool

The republican would probally love for Obama to go after McCain's age. I'm an attack like that would sit well with the AARP and other such senior lobbist groups.

Yeah that's kind of the same thing like McCain going after Obama's name....it is what it is and making an issue of it is more likely to backfire (as we found out with ekeen is nothing else )

[Flocka]

Originally Posted by Buckeye86

wouldn't increasing the national debt more than any other president in the history of the United States make Bush a "liberal" spender if that's the case

So you get it now?

[sepia5]

Originally Posted by buckeyefool

The point you made is exactly why she wasn't pick just to take the Clinton votes. Not all women think the same, and to assume that they must all stand the same on every issues shows how little faith you must have in women to stand on their own.

I think you're missing the point. Do you think Palin was picked to sure up the Evangelical and conservative women's vote? Why exactly would McCain need to appeal to women that are going to vote for him anyway? Clearly this was a pick to sway potential Clinton voters. It is McCain that seems to believe all women will act in a similar manner: namely, that they'll vote for a woman just because she's a woman. How stupid does he think women that were expected to support Clinton are? Does he really believe this voting block will vote for him and his VP, both of whom generally disagree with them on the issues that are very important to them, just b/c he's named a woman as VP?

Originally Posted by buckeyefool

As for who would have more of an impact on policy, I would say Palin.

I would strongly disagree. Think Hilary Clinton.

[BayBuck]

Originally Posted by cincibuck

How many of you think Bush has been a good president?

Certainly not as bad of one as I'm sure you do, but it's a non-issue for the 2008 election. The bigger issue for me is how much I don't want to see Obama as president, especially if (for instance) something big goes down with Russia or any Supreme Court seats open up.

[Buckeye86]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

He's a political moderate....conservative on some issues, liberal on others.....

That is so lame.

I'll let you call Bush moderate based on his "liberal" spending policies if I can call Obama moderate because he has a conservative attitude towards the environment.

[Buckeye86]

And on that note, I would like to announce my retirement from the Poli board until at least January.

GO BUCKS!!

[FCollinsBuckeye]

Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye

Should be 'gilf'...

Originally Posted by buckeyefool

except for the fact that she isn't a grandmother.

Originally Posted by BB73

I'm thinking he saw a picture of the daughter holding the baby, and assumed it was one of the kid's kids, rather than Sarah's own 4-month-old.

I'm assuming mili meant 'g' for 'governor'?

[sepia5]

Originally Posted by BayBuck

Um, okay Dr. Sepia

Your sarcasm is really cute. The average life expectancy for white males in the United States is 76. I don't think it takes a doctor to realize that the life expectancy of a 72-year-old white male who has been subjected to an especially physically strained life should be a concern when that man elects to run for the most powerful position in the world.

Originally Posted by BayBuck

And if you could remove your bias for just a moment,

Says the guy who labels Obama "ultra-liberal" and, unlike almost 80% of America, doesn't think the Bush administration has been that bad.

Originally Posted by BayBuck

you'd realize that there are a lot of spots on the Republican checklist that Palin fills (however campaign/interest-group superficial they may also be) in addition to just her gender.

I do realize this. Do you, on the other hand, really believe that she would have gotten past the VP-search threshold had she been a he? Frankly, I just see the support for Palin from people like you that continue to attack Obama on the experience issue as the height of hypocrisy.

[sepia5]

Originally Posted by buckeyefool

The republican would probally love for Obama to go after McCain's age. I'm an attack like that would sit well with the AARP and other such senior lobbist groups.

That is a good point. Then again, the AARP hasn't exactly agreed with McCain on many points.