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Old 10-15-2008, 10:15 PM
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very nice close to Obama's abortion stance....
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McCain's looks are awesome...he hates Obama.
Never underestimate the importance of body language.
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Whenever he mentions Joe - take a drink!
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McCain is clearly more aggressive, but he has to hit the home run, not just have a brisker manner and a better suit.

(BTW, he is better tailored this time.)
time to get the steak knife out. cannibal... cannibal... cannibal
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Okay, I upheld the performances, perhaps, wrongly, of Palin and McCain in past debates, but McCain is getting owned here.
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Whenever he mentions Joe - take a drink!
I'm wasted.
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I really thought McCain was gonna win this debate...and change things. But I can't say that he did. The begining of the debate he looked strong, but ever since the first question, it's been all Obama. Negative campagining, health care, roe v. wade, education...McCain was just not very strong, and Obama was.
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In this kind of setting, you shouldn't ask a question or directly prompt your opponent on something where you don't know what the answer will be. It was plain to see by McCain's expression that he expected Obama to avoid responding to that assertion, and furthermore, Obama's position and response were in direct opposition to what McCain was attempting to characterize.
Either Obama was lying or McCain was flat out wrong..even after Obama claimed the fine wouldn't effect "Joe the Plumber" McCain said it would, as if Obama didn't know his own policy. It's one of the issues the pundits will have fun with tonight...someone was clearly wrong.

I thought McCain won, b/c Obama has talked about the fine as if it was a good thing for the plan. When McCain pressed him on it, Obama said it wouldn't effect Joe the Plumber.

But if McCain was wrong....huge blunder!!
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Obama just broke the CNN dials on his education answer. I've never seen anyone go off the chart for both men and women.
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Either Obama was lying or McCain was flat out wrong..even after Obama claimed the fine wouldn't effect "Joe the Plumber" McCain said it would, as if Obama didn't know his own policy. It's one of the issues the pundits will have fun with tonight...someone was clearly wrong.

I thought McCain won, b/c Obama has talked about the fine as if it was a good thing for the plan. When McCain pressed him on it, Obama said it wouldn't effect Joe the Plumber.

But if McCain was wrong....huge blunder!!
I said this after last debate. I've looked at non-partisan websites, about Obama's plan. Obama has never had a fine on small business in his plan. NEVER. When McCain said it last time, it was a lie. And it is this time. Maybe McCain needs to go read Obama's plan...or read factcheck, or other websites that lay out both plans.
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I've been following the comments both here, on a very liberal site and a very conservative site.

The liberals by and large think Obama won.

The conservatives think Obama lied (and usually say so without saying McCain, in fact, won)....

And on here it pretty much went that way although the conservatives on here seem to think McCain won some portions of the debate.

Personally I couldn't care less, this is the first baseball game I've watched in it's entirety since May.
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Okay, I upheld the performances, perhaps, wrongly, of Palin and McCain in past debates, but McCain is getting owned here.
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Uh, someone needs to tell McCain that Palin's child is not autistic.
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rerun of LSU is on right now I've missed most of the debate
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I said this after last debate. I've looked at non-partisan websites, about Obama's plan. Obama has never had a fine on small business in his plan. NEVER. When McCain said it last time, it was a lie. And it is this time. Maybe McCain needs to go read Obama's plan...or read factcheck, or other websites that lay out both plans.
no one defined "small business" or "large business"
if its the 250k as the line again?
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