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Old 11-24-2008, 01:35 PM
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What about the rims?
Rev. Wright hasn't gotten back to him on that point, yet.

All Obama has said is that he wants them to be audacious.

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Old 11-24-2008, 01:54 PM
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Sounds like "_____ is just looking for an excuse to cash out. He has no idea what "an economy under Obama" even looks like. He's probably just tired of actively managing his investment and wants to take his ball and go home.
I would have to agree on the "cash out" portion. Other than that, I'm stumped. They just purchased 16 new pieces of equipment for part of their assembly line. They were in the process of purchasing some more equipment for what pertains to me. We're talking seven figure capital investments. The building is already paid for and the whole nine. It's not like he's going to sell the property. All I can think of is that it's politically and religiously based. But that's for a whole nother time.

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Let me know when he dies so I can [censored] on his grave.

Letting 50-70 people go in this economy because he has his little elephant panties in a wad because Obama won is beyond stupid. How very adult of him to shut it down before Obama takes office and we can sees the way he governs. The left liberals are moaning because Obama is going pragmatic and centrist, and this douche nozzle is laying people off because he is afraid of the socialist.

Good grief. That is as pathetic as the celebrity morons who were going to move out of the country if Bush won....except they did not hurt other people by their silliness.

And Muff, I know you are just the messenger big guy.
Couldn't agree more. Just wish it didn't affect my company directly.
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What about the rims?
19 inch chrome! nice ride if you ask me.
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I would have to agree on the "cash out" portion. Other than that, I'm stumped. They just purchased 16 new pieces of equipment for part of their assembly line. They were in the process of purchasing some more equipment for what pertains to me. We're talking seven figure capital investments. The building is already paid for and the whole nine. It's not like he's going to sell the property. All I can think of is that it's politically and religiously based. But that's for a whole nother time.
Money and capital > politics and religion.

Capital investment into a business does not necessarily mean that the owners are in it for long-haul.

For example, if you want to sell your house and give the impression that it's a viable place to live, it's not out of the question that you put on a new roof, change to more energy-efficient windows, add a deck in the back, put up some new landscaping, etc. Why are home sellers willing to spend that cash if they're getting out? Because they know that it will increase (or at least shore up) the value of the home.

The same logic applies to businesses. There could be a number of other business / economic reasons behind the investment, but that's one simple way of showing that it's not likely that the owner just fell out of love with the business after Nov. 4th.
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Money and capital > politics and religion.

Capital investment into a business does not necessarily mean that the owners are in it for long-haul.

For example, if you want to sell your house and give the impression that it's a viable place to live, it's not out of the question that you put on a new roof, change to more energy-efficient windows, add a deck in the back, put up some new landscaping, etc. Why are home sellers willing to spend that cash if they're getting out? Because they know that it will increase (or at least shore up) the value of the home.

The same logic applies to businesses. There could be a number of other business / economic reasons behind the investment, but that's one simple way of showing that it's not likely that the owner just fell out of love with the business after Nov. 4th.
Ahhh... got'cha.
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I eagerly await Directive 10-289
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I eagerly await Directive 10-289

The one that requires Ekeen to wax the new ObamaCaddy?
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The one that requires Ekeen to wax the new ObamaCaddy?
Caddy is 2006 bro. Lil Wayne is even off of them now. 2009 is all about the Lincoln.
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I have to admit that I couldn't be more disgusted with Obama's economic team. For Christ's sake why not just appoint god damned Phil Gramm. It wouldn't be any worse than loading up the administration with disciples of Gramm's co-conspirator, Rubin.

The people whose stupendous miscalculations and colossal failure led to this economic meltdown are now supposed to be looked to in fixing the problem? Am I the only one missing something here?
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I'm a little disappointed with is what appears to be a reunion (of sorts) of the Clinton administration and advisors under the banner of the Obama presidency. I haven't assembled a full list and a set of bios, but there seems to be a "served as xxxx under in Clinton administration" common denominator when I hear/read about the picks.

If I wanted a bunch of Clintonites running things, I would have voted for [gasp!] HRC.

I realize I'm perhaps making swift judgment, and I'm not implying that a team of advisors that was previously active in the Clinton administration is necessarily an altogether bad thing, but I guess I was looking for something a little different, a fresh approach, a departure from the past.

Not a big deal, really, because the team hasn't really taken office yet, but just a bit of a disappointment in terms of the choices that are being made. These are tough times and we need to act quickly to right the ship, but I'm not so sure we have to sell our souls to beltway insiders in order to get things back on track.
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Are you guys seeing press coverage about the alleged angst developing being attributed to Islamic extremists, due to the election of Obama?

We are beginning to hear more and more that there is fear that Obama cannot be counted on to over-react and push moderates toward the extremists. The argument goes that Obama will be able to sway moderate Muslims to dump the extremists. It is really gathering steam out here in the emerging economies.
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Am I the only one missing something here?
Yeah... you missed that trade back in '88 where the Republicans had to take the NeoCons from the Dems straight up for the supply siders.
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Yeah... you missed that trade back in '88 where the Republicans had to take the NeoCons from the Dems straight up for the supply siders.
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Are you guys seeing press coverage about the alleged angst developing being attributed to Islamic extremists, due to the election of Obama?
I have no idea about the media coverage but the word in my circles doesn't support that...more along the lines of in "the next few years are going to be a good opportunity for low profile rebuilding".

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Yeah... you missed that trade back in '88 where the Republicans had to take the NeoCons from the Dems straight up for the supply siders.
Couldn't we have just sent both groups back down to the minors?
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