Swine Flu

[reagdog]

No virus can stand getting obliterated by a bottle of Jack Daniels. That's the best virus protection.

[jimotis4heisman]

House approves bill allowing quarantines - BostonHerald.com

Public health officials would have the power to isolate individuals and order quarantines to contain the outbreak of serious contagious diseases under a bill approved by the Massachusetts House today.
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Sanchez said the House version of the bill eliminates some of the more contentious parts approved in April by the Senate including sections placing restrictions on the right to public assembly and allowing the arrest of individuals without warrant.
The Senate bill would also allow the government to mandate vaccinations or place into isolation anyone who refused to be vaccinated ? a provision that was eliminated from the House version.
"This bill does not change the law to force people to be vaccinated," Sanchez said.
The bill spells out the authority of the public health commissioner once an emergency is declared ? including the power to force the evacuation of public buildings and order health care facilities to provide services to those sickened.
The bill would also let the commissioner limit public access to contaminated areas, adopt measures to safely dispose of infection waste, and store and distribute antitoxins, serums, vaccines and antibiotics.
One of the most contentious parts of the bill would give public health officials the authority to force individuals or groups into isolation or quarantine when there is "reasonable cause to believe that a disease or condition dangerous to the public health exists or may exist or that there is an immediate risk of an outbreak."
The isolation or quarantine order can be made orally as long as it is followed by a written order. The bill allows those in quarantine to appeal to a Superior Court judge.
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other links
Critics: H1N1 bill gives too much power | WWLP.com
Bill would OK quarantine in health crises

headed to the govs desk.


here is the bill
Senate Bill, No. 2028


what do you guys think? part of me thinks this is a great idea. yet part of me cringes. i understand it can be appealed to the superior court, yet boy. i see the point, much like a weather emergency, be it a blizzard or hurricane (like our snow emergencies or katrina like extended periods).





all this on the heels of certain states/professions requiring the h1n1 vaccination.
Health Care Workers Protest Mandatory H1N1 Vaccination - Taking Liberties - CBS News

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New York Department of Health requirement has sparked an unusually intense response. The August 13 regulations say that all health care workers who "could potentially expose patients" must be vaccinated for influenza by November 30 unless it would be "detrimental" to the recipient's health. (Any reprieve would be temporary and last only until injection with the vaccine would "no longer be detrimental.")
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Perhaps the best overview of the legality of mandatory vaccination lies in a 2005 report prepared for the U.S. Congress by the Congressional Research Service. It notes that while the federal government does have the power to order quarantines, public health has historically been the states' responsibility. The CRS report adds: "Generally, federal regulations authorizing the apprehension, detention, examination, or conditional release of individuals are applicable only to individuals coming into a State or possession from a foreign country... Any federal mandatory vaccination program applicable to the general public would likely incorporate similar jurisdictional limitations."
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In terms of state authority, there's an important 1905 U.S. Supreme Court case called Jacobson vs. Massachusetts, which was affirmed in 1922. It arose out of a challenge to the state's requirement to obtain a free smallpox vaccine or pay five dollars. The majority voted to upheld the law, saying:

We are not prepared to hold that a minority, residing or remaining in any city or town where smallpox is prevalent, and enjoying the general protection afforded by an organized local government, may thus defy the will of its constituted authorities, acting in good faith for all, under the legislative sanction of the state. If such be the privilege of a minority, then a like privilege would belong to each individual of the community, and the spectacle would be presented of the welfare and safety of an entire population being subordinated to the notions of a single individual who chooses to remain a part of that population.

That seems pretty clear. So are the state laws regarding vaccinations for children attending school -- every state requires vaccines such as measles, rubella, and polio, although medical and religious exemptions do exist.
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some interesting policy stuff. like i said i dont seem to have solidified my view yet... thoughts?

[Steve19]

Folks, take this thing seriously, okay? It damn near killed me and I mean that plainly. The secondary infections like pneumonia are very serious. It killed college kids here who were getting medical treatment as good or better than anything you can get in Columbus. Thousands died.

[Gatorubet]

Originally Posted by Steve19

Folks, take this thing seriously, okay? It damn near killed me and I mean that plainly. The secondary infections like pneumonia are very serious. It killed college kids here who were getting medical treatment as good or better than anything you can get in Columbus. Thousands died.

Well, it made your two eyes grow into one big eye, so that's some bad [censored]!

[MaxBuck]

Originally Posted by Steve19

Folks, take this thing seriously, okay? It damn near killed me and I mean that plainly.

OK, but what the [censored] can we really do? Flu shots for H1N1 aren't yet available, efficacy is uncertain, and side-effects potentially disastrous. And I'm sorry, but I can't feasibly carry around a jug of hand sanitizer to use before and after I shake everyone's hand.

Against a virus like this, I'm not sure we really have much "protection."

[BuckeyeMac]

It's overrated...and dammit if I'm going to die from some BS, I'd rather eat a Buckeye and die by being a hardcore Buckeye.

[Steve19]

MAC, it's not over-rated and young people have a disproportionate chance of complications, such as pneumonia.

What can you do?

First, prevent it. It's a virus, so all your doctor can do is treat your symptoms. Viruses hate vitamins, so up your count of B and C vitamins. I don't mean in a crazy way or to exceed recommended dosages, but make sure that you are getting a healthy dose of B and C vitamins. Get plenty of rest and exercise. The better condition you are in, the better you can fight it and perhaps even avoid it. If you can get vacinnated, then I think that is first prize, but nutrition, exercise, and rest will help.

Second, if you get flu-like symptoms, fight it. Don't wait, see your doctor immediately. The Novel Influenza A H1N1 virus has tell-tale symptoms. Congestion, cough, and usually diarrhea.

The big symptom is growing fatigue. I never felt so tired in my entire life, even after sleeping 12 hours. As it advances, it gets to the point where even sitting up takes too much effort. It really whacks you.

If you get H1N1, insist on TAMIFLU. Doctors will tell you that Tamiflu is only useful within two days of catching H1N1, but it helps reduce its severity even if you take it much later and, more importantly, it helps you recover from the complications that follow, like pneumonia.

It is important to not exaggerate the threat of H1N1, but equally, it's important to not dismiss it. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

[Steve19]

The Center for Disease Control in Atlanta has a very informative site (link):

How do I know if I have the flu?

You may have the flu if you have some or all of these symptoms:

• fever *
• cough
• sore throat
• runny or stuffy nose
• body aches
• headache
• chills
• fatigue
• sometimes diarrhea and vomiting

*It?s important to note that not everyone with flu will have a fever.


Here is a more informative CDC site (link). Here is an informative Canadian site (link). I hope this helps you guys avoid this.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMac

It's overrated...and dammit if I'm going to die from some BS, I'd rather eat a Buckeye and die by being a hardcore Buckeye.

Don't shave your beard, say 10 hail Tressels and you'll be fine.

[BUCKYLE]

The Beard is a natural defense. Swine Flu's only natural enemy.

[OSUsushichic]

The sad thing is, now that LeBron has swine flu, maybe people will take it seriously.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by OSUsushichic

The sad thing is, now that LeBron has swine flu, maybe people will take it seriously.

I blame President Bush Braylon Edwards

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by OSUsushichic

The sad thing is, now that LeBron has swine flu, maybe people will take it seriously.

link?



LeBron James, other Cleveland Cavaliers recovering from flu bug | Cleveland Cavaliers - cleveland.com -
but actually it says the h1n1 tests arent back. so file that one as a rumor still...

[starBUCKS]

I'll treat this as a rumor at this point, but a friend of the family who is a Doctor/Professor told my Mom this afternoon that the Canadian Government has found that the swine vaccine has actually made people more susceptible to getting the H1N1 virus. Could have been lost in translation by the time it got to me... but it will be interesting to see if anything comes up in the next few days.

[buckeyefool]

Originally Posted by starBUCKS

I'll treat this as a rumor at this point, but a friend of the family who is a Doctor/Professor told my Mom this afternoon that the Canadian Government has found that the swine vaccine has actually made people more susceptible to getting the H1N1 virus. Could have been lost in translation by the time it got to me... but it will be interesting to see if anything comes up in the next few days.

I read that somewhere to, will have to find the article again. the Other thing to remeber is that some of the versions of the vaccine have mercury in them, which of course is why many people won't get shots for their kids, because there are some doctors who claim it leads/contributes to autism