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Originally Posted by DaytonBuck
Would referring to Van Jones as a communist be hyperbolic?
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Originally Posted by Bucklion
A person who refers to themselves as something can be referred to as that if there is a point to it besides just using the word for the word's sake.
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Originally Posted by kinch
If you want to play this game you're gone.
We all appreciate the fact that you can be cute.
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how is that "cute" it seems highly relevant to me... i cant refer to any "isms" that might be offensive to the current leaders of our country when they themselves have articulated that their own views align, or are clearly in line with such ideals and principles.
from "dreams"
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"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," Obama wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."
After college, Obama states lived on Manhattan's Upper East Side, venturing to the East Village for what he called "the socialist conferences I sometimes attended at Cooper Union."
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Obama’s Communist Mentor
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In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a "hard-core academic Marxist," which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes.
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Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank." The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.
Trevor Loudon, a New Zealand-based libertarian activist, researcher and blogger, noted evidence that "Frank" was Frank Marshall Davis in a posting in March of 2007.
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But you will find it briefly discussed, sort of, in Obama's own book, Dreams From My Father. He writes about "a poet named Frank," who visited them in Hawaii, read poetry, and was full of "hard-earned knowledge" and advice. Who was Frank? Obama only says that he had "some modest notoriety once," was "a contemporary of Richard Wright and Langston Hughes during his years in Chicago..." but was now "pushing eighty." He writes about "Frank and his old Black Power dashiki self" giving him advice before he left for Occidental College in 1979 at the age of 18.
This "Frank" is none other than Frank Marshall Davis, the black communist writer now considered by some to be in the same category of prominence as Maya Angelou and Alice Walker. In the summer/fall 2003 issue of African American Review, James A. Miller of George Washington University reviews a book by John Edgar Tidwell, a professor at the University of Kansas, about Davis's career, and notes, "In Davis's case, his political commitments led him to join the American Communist Party during the middle of World War II-even though he never publicly admitted his Party membership." Tidwell is an expert on the life and writings of Davis.
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his father paper on 100% taxation of the rich, confiscation of all land an private property?
communist sympathizers for a mother
Asia Times Online :: Asian News, Business and Economy.
militant marxist activist brothers
Barack Obama and the Marxist Movement in Kenya
Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? - Examiner.com
hand picked appointment to ill senate seat by avowed communist and attendee of the 27th communist convention
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf
dsa support and connections
Is Barack Obama A Marxist Mole?
bernie sanders endorsement
communist/socialist endorsements
CPUSA Online - Special District Meeting on African American Equality
Organizing for America | Marxists/Socialists/Communists for Obama
i mean some relatively interesting stuff, however to preclude any discussion is simply embarrassing. im not for digging that deep and going hard and heavy for it, however i see nothing more than a discussion that is analogous to bush's oil ties or his skull, bones ties, etc. not something that should be wholly precluded from any/all discussion. when you end up left of bernie saunders and appoint multiple communist/marxist/socialist to non senate confirmation post that you create their is some level of discovery that need take place. dont get me wrong this current "ism" movement didnt starte 1/09 rather the push last fall for the multitude of bailouts and last summers middle class welfare act ought be discussed.
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