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Great then the moderators can argue with each other too.

The inmates already run the asylum.

At some point, we need to realize that the point here isn't about political prosthelytizing.

And it really isn't about "well, I don't like this particular policy, so if I scream [censored]ing louder it might matter more"
I don't care for the term "argue" might we use the term "oral social intercourse"
It's so much more ... well you know.
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Great then the moderators can argue with each other too.

The inmates already run the asylum.

At some point, we need to realize that the point here isn't about political prosthelytizing.

And it really isn't about "well, I don't like this particular policy, so if I scream [censored]ing louder it might matter more"
You just took away my Mod Lord of the South Title.

Racist!
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Great then the moderators can argue with each other too.

The inmates already run the asylum.

At some point, we need to realize that the point here isn't about political prosthelytizing.

And it really isn't about "well, I don't like this particular policy, so if I scream [censored]ing louder it might matter more"
you already have the fox in the henhouse who are amongst the worst offenders...

what does converting to judaism have to do with this? rham emanuel pushing that policy?
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You just took away my Mod Lord of the South Title.

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S2-some sort of elected moderation, in addition to you appointed folks
What is that? You think Clarity went out and picked out some sort of corps of people for the purpose of oppressing the board? And wound up with THIS group as a result? Oppression - doing it wrong.

The mods are simply posters who demonstrated a willingness to deal with MANY headaches in an effort to build a forum with both basic standards of civility and excellent political discussion. They try to put aside their own leanings when acting as mods (which, by the way, they should never actually need to do), and they put extraordinary time and effort into making the forum better.

And yet they catch crap from people who insist on knowing exactly how many buttons they can push before the floor falls out from under them, because their intent is to push as many as possible. And knowing full well what the intent is, and how many buttons are being pushed as we speak, I don't think the mods have asked for any new forum bans yet.

Everyone who has been hounding the mods in here for "rules" and "guidelines" understands fully what we mean when we say no bashing Buckeye players in the football forums. Say what you want, but be civil about it. How can this understanding crumble so quickly when it comes to politics - a topic we all know to be MUCH less important?
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you already have the fox in the henhouse who are amongst the worst offenders...

what does converting to judaism have to do with this? rham emanuel pushing that policy?
Honestly...

You have about one chance to rephrase that as far as I'm concerned....

And I'll let one of the "conservative Mods" deal with it.

But, if there's a joke here, I'm missing it.

No one is singling you out, as much as you might think they are.

Get over it.
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is this proper rhetoric?
are you implying that their is something wrong with living an alternative lifestyle or a homosexual life choice?
i mean im just saying...
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Honestly...

You have about one chance to rephrase that as far as I'm concerned....

And I'll let one of the "conservative Mods" deal with it.

But, if there's a joke here, I'm missing it.

No one is singling you out, as much as you might think they are.

Get over it.
Well I'm not really following any of this to be honest, but yeah, I'll agree no one is being singled out, and everything needs to be ratcheted down a notch on several fronts. Not sure who the fox is or where the henhouse is.
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Honestly...

You have about one chance to rephrase that as far as I'm concerned....

And I'll let one of the "conservative Mods" deal with it.

But, if there's a joke here, I'm missing it.

No one is singling you out, as much as you might think they are.

Get over it.
rephrase what? that a few of the mods are as bad or worse than other posters? or that historically amongst the worst have been a few of the mods? seems reasonable and logical to me.

they may or may not be "singling me out" yet rather more than a few have commented on the general commentary of mine prior to this latest "crackdown" a few refuse to say anything for fear of losing their favorite website in other aspects. but hey, i mean if mods can slam peoples sexuality and/or insult the intellect of posters as demonstrated here then fine.
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Seriously, I'm appalled at the whining in this thread. The topic was discussed at some length. Before a consensus was reached, there was the involvement of multiple moderators whose opinions usually represent opposite sides of the political spectrum. It's not an effort to suppress or shape opinions, it's an effort to remove the squabbling, namecalling, and animosity that have driven many BPers away from reading the threads in the political forum. It's also an effort to return to a more civilized exchange of ideas.

If somebody can't read the guidelines and abide by them, they deserve to get banned from the political forum.

If that action results in any blowback onto the other forums, infractions toward board-wide bans will result. We sincerely hope that doesn't happen, but we're not going to tolerate political garbage leaking into other areas of the board.

How freakin' hard is this to understand? Stop the whining, stop trying to test the new limits, and get with the revised program. Or get banned from the political forum.
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Oh, for heaven's sake. This is like trying to figure out just how much blue and yellow you can wear on a Saturday at the 'Shoe.
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Seriously, I'm appalled at the whining in this thread. The topic was discussed at some length. Before a consensus was reached, there was the involvement of multiple moderators whose opinions usually represent opposite sides of the political spectrum. It's not an effort to suppress or shape opinions, it's an effort to remove the squabbling, namecalling, and animosity that have driven many BPers away from reading the threads in the political forum. It's also an effort to return to a more civilized exchange of ideas.

If somebody can't read the guidelines and abide by them, they deserve to get banned from the political forum.

If that action results in any blowback onto the other forums, infractions toward board-wide bans will result. We sincerely hope that doesn't happen, but we're not going to tolerate political garbage leaking into other areas of the board.

How freakin' hard is this to understand? Stop the whining, stop trying to test the new limits, and get with the revised program. Or get banned from the political forum.
application seems inconsistent at best. guidelines seem vague, seemed aimed at particular areas. where i generally believe that 99.9% of all posts here are good natured. then again it appears that certain things have been applied in an interesting manner. ie you can say bitch/cock slap sarah palin or call someone a racist, yet if you call universal healthcare socialist thats wrong... oh no, the "ism" word!!!1!!eleventy.

then again you have mods making death threats to posters, sending nasty pms, dings etc.

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Oh, for heaven's sake. This is like trying to figure out just how much blue and yellow you can wear on a Saturday at the 'Shoe.
not really deety. but then again you seemed to find offense in my mentioning that a self elected group to "tone it down" when need be. your comeback came just short of insulting my intelligence though, where as another mod flat out made commentary that was derogatory to person of a certain sexuality.
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not really deety. but then again you seemed to find offense in my mentioning that a self elected group to "tone it down" when need be. your comeback came just short of insulting my intelligence though, where as another mod flat out made commentary that was derogatory to person of a certain sexuality.
JO, I have some difficulty respecting people who go to this much effort to undermine efforts to improve the forum by people who are trying to make things better. Not perfect people - we all need to watch ourselves in here - but trying.

It's disheartening.
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then again you have mods making death threats to posters, sending nasty pms, dings etc.
How about letting the administrators worry about the moderators, rather than mocking their attempt at guidelines because of how much their moderator(s) suck?

If someone has a problem with another individual, whatever the reason, then take it up with one of the moderators privately. Don't keep throwing it in our faces as an alternative to learning and adapting to these rules.
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application seems inconsistent at best. guidelines seem vague, seemed aimed at particular areas. where i generally believe that 99.9% of all posts here are good natured. then again it appears that certain things have been applied in an interesting manner. ie you can say bitch/cock slap sarah palin or call someone a racist, yet if you call universal healthcare socialist thats wrong... oh no, the "ism" word!!!1!!eleventy.
Both sides have been targeted and asked to tone down the absurdity. Seeing as there isn't a republican legislative or executive branch these days, there will obviously be more reactions to democratic actions, and thus a lot more chances to go too far there.

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