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Announcement: Poli Forum Season 2009: Things Must Change

It is once again time to clean up this sub-forum a bit.

buckiprof already clearly laid out the demeanor and level of conversation expected in the forum in a sticky, still located at the top of the forum, with the subject "PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING HERE."

buckiprof's post is quoted below, whether you read no further in this particular post please at least read the post of buckiprof which you should already have read and heeded.

We are not trying to deter anyone from posting in this sub-forum and we welcome discussion of all issues and viewpoints thereof. Our simple request is that people stick with the intent of the forum: honest, intelligent, and illuminative discussion of political happenings and theory. We truly want a vibrant and interesting forum where viewpoints are discussed rationally and without animosity and immutable opinions.

If you wish only to visit and post in this forum in order to tout and fly the flag of your particular political bent, without any desire to consider contravening opinions or facts, we do not wish you to post here. You may be right or wrong, and we may applaud you for your loyalty. But please go.

If you start threads or make posts with the sole intent of attacking views that oppose your own and those who hold them, again without any real desire to intellectually and openly discuss the subject matter at hand, we do not wish to have to muddle through what you have to say.

If you think intelligent discussion of political issues includes the use of name calling (as to politicians or other BP members) or hyperbolic adjectives such as "communist" or "fascist" without true recognition of the terms, or if you use "socialist," "right wing," "wingnut" or "liberal" as merely a derisive term void of true meaning, please do not do so any longer in the forum or else take your banter elsewhere.

We want this forum to stimulate the mind rather than enrage or decay it. The Poli forum can be a useful and informative place, and it has been in the past, and we intend to ensure that it is again in the future.

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The Political Conversation and Debate sub-forum has been created since there are some people who want to talk or even argue politics. Our goal in this area is to have rational, honest discussion and debate on topics from the political arena.

To achieve discussion and debate, serious discussion and debate, we have some guidelines that every member must adhere to, or the right to post in this sub-forum will be revoked. Just as stricter rules apply when posting in the recruiting forum, we must insist on higher standards in this sub-forum because of the volatile nature of political discussion.

- Refrain from party rhetoric and dogma. Regurgitating the rhetoric of one's party does not foster debate. If that is what you seek, then listen to Rush Limbaugh or Michael Moore, but don't bring that crap here.

- Refrain from name calling and bashing of others. Discussion in the political arena can get heated at times, but do not fall to the simple-minded name calling that, again, does not foster debate/discussion of a topic. If a post angers you to the point that you want to slip to name calling, use self control before making a post. Take a time out.

- Respect others' opinions and posts with the same level of respect that you would like to receive. The vast majority of us are here because of our love of all things related to The Ohio State University. All of us have much in common. Our political differences do not make us each other's enemy, instead, it should make us stronger.

- Flaming and trolling will be dealt with swiftly and with little to no tolerance. If you can't refrain from flaming, your ability to post in this sub-forum will be revoked.

- Refrain from starting threads with titles that are meant to agitate folks from the other side of the aisle. Again, this would not foster discussion nor debate.

- Political discussion is for the Poli sub-forum ONLY. Do NOT, under any circumstance, take such topics to any other forum at BP. Interjecting political commentary in other forums will be met with harsh responses ... generally a warning or infraction from our staff.

- No political commentary in your Avatar, Title or Signature line. These items appear in all your posts at BP and will be viewed on all forums. Much like the previous point, we do NOT want political commentary outside of the Poli sub-forum.

- It is the policy in all areas of BP that one will refrain from posting entire articles. This policy is also in effect in this sub-forum.

We ask that everyone recognize what is expected of them in this sub-forum and take responsibility and ownership of this sub-forum as a community. Childish behavior will not be tolerated, name calling will not be tolerated, bashing of other posters will not be tolerated, and mindless rhetoric ala Limbaugh or Moore will not be tolerated. If these simple guidelines are too much for you to adhere to, then do not post in this sub-forum.

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Would referring to Van Jones as a communist be hyperbolic?
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Would referring to Van Jones as a communist be hyperbolic?
A person who refers to themselves as something can be referred to as that if there is a point to it besides just using the word for the word's sake.
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Would referring to Van Jones as a communist be hyperbolic?
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I think that maybe there should be an opt-in for the poli-forum like there is for the Horseshoes and Handgrenades forum.

Opting in, of course, obligates the poster to following the rules. Just to make an official break from the previous set up.
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I think that maybe there should be an opt-in for the poli-forum like there is for the Horseshoes and Handgrenades forum.

Opting in, of course, obligates the poster to following the rules. Just to make an official break from the previous set up.
I'm not sure how that would make people follow the rules better. Rules are rules, "opt-in" or not.
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I'm not sure how that would make people follow the rules better. Rules are rules, "opt-in" or not.
The point is to make a clear break from the old poli forum.

It's as much symbolism over substance, but I think it would change the atmosphere if people have to actually commit to it.
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The point is to make a clear break from the old poli forum.

It's as much symbolism over substance, but I think it would change the atmosphere if people have to actually commit to it.
If someone is going to post genitals in the RR, they're going to post genitals.
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Question-honest-what is the preferred ideological/political term for someone with the same general range of political views as Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama on here, since the term "liberal" has been placed on the no go list?
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Question-honest-what is the preferred ideological/political term for someone with the same general range of political views as Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama on here, since the term "liberal" has been placed on the no go list?
I'm dubious that you read Kinch's post if all you got out of it was there is now some magic list of terms which can or cannot be used in discussion.

Try reading that paragraph again and see if you're still unclear.
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Is calling the mods "nazis" OK still?
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Is calling the mods "nazis" OK still?
Dude you're back!

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You can call us nazis anytime brother.

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