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Old 09-10-2009, 03:30 PM
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We're spending an awful lot of time discussing the rule started by the official moderators...

yet very little showing how to moderate the forum your way. Clearly that rule isn't yours or one you embrace readily, so let's hear some of the ways you are going to clean up the forum.

I know JO will offer some. Perhaps he should get to use the brains user title.
It's true.... we do seem to have a whole lot of talk and very little action...

Let's earn our keep... go get us some posts to infract.
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which gets back to the point from the other thread about warnings and infractions being private unless someone posts about them separately.

Then again, it appears your detective work skipped the lengthy exchange JO and others had yesterday about this very topic. I believe its pinned atop this board, or it was recently.

In that exchange, he also makes the mistake of using an example of another divisive post that he assumed was not addressed by a moderator, when in fact it was privately... where a lot of work is done on this site.

I'm sorry but I fail and don't see anything about posting comments after articles in that exchange
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I'm sorry but I fail and don't see anything about posting comments after articles in that exchange
Nor should you... you should have seen Jwins note that moderation is a private matter not known to users not involved unless they make it public, as you did, for example
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my infraction
FDIC to borrow $500,000,000,000


my "warning"
Technically the first one was your warning and the others were dings with guidance. Mind you, I think mine was more polite.

An infraction would have carried points.
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which gets back to the point from the other thread about warnings and infractions being private unless someone posts about them separately.

Then again, it appears your detective work skipped the lengthy exchange JO and others had yesterday about this very topic. I believe its pinned atop this board, or it was recently.

In that exchange, he also makes the mistake of using an example of another divisive post that he assumed was not addressed by a moderator, when in fact it was privately... where a lot of work is done on this site.
which it seems has been productive, ie this thread. thank you, it is a very good idea and i appreciate it. however different from my approach it has merit. thank you mods.

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Why so serious all the time, Jo? Can't you spot a joke when it's blatent?

No problem. and I appreciate your steadfast search for bright line rules and strict construction.
so as long as its a "joke" its cool? youre the trier of fact? personally i dont find such "jokes" as humorous rather its nothing short of a slur, something that would get many of us fired or forced resignation. some of us view this place from work and derogatory slurs are not appropriate in public discourse and do not foster discussion. sure its one thing to make a joke, its a completely different level to use such language. rather its nothing sort of disgusting.... its been essentially a crackdown issue on any other part of this board.

youre calling me scalia? or an idiot (again) or you think it is socially acceptable to use disparaging remarks?
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So apparently even when given a platform from which to implement the large volume of advice given in
the past...

The result is still little more than whining about moderation instead of providing a solution?


And no, this thread is not an excuse for dung whining, which has been well established as more than just complaining about rep. We don't even allow mockery of stupid reps on this website.


That yellow color means it is a warning, as did the title of the warning left. Infractions are red, and carry points and consequences with them. Warnings are nothing more than what that word implies.
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How is trying to find what the distinction on posts citing articles whining about moderation?
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We're spending an awful lot of time discussing the rule started by the official moderators...

yet very little showing how to moderate the forum your way. Clearly that rule isn't yours or one you embrace readily, so let's hear some of the ways you are going to clean up the forum.

I know JO will offer some. Perhaps he should get to use the brains user title.
sarcasm font? is that a violation in calling me an idiot (or implying it)?

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Wow... that OSUsushchic sure is a meanie...
i was told i had recently receive multiple warnings, my assumption is those are them?
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Well... we could just dust off the PCP and go back to hazing and anarchy.
Now you're saying to dust off the angel dust.

The ESPN boards never make your head hurt like this one.
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How is trying to find what the distinction on posts citing articles whining about moderation?
I believe the "whining" aspect of it had more to do with the "he/she got away with it and didn't receive a warning like me" that occurred a little earlier in the thread.

Going forward, just understand that you need to provide some relevant commentary whenever you post an article.
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i was told i had recently receive multiple warnings, my assumption is those are them?
Collectively, you could consider them all as warnings, formal or otherwise. Not infractions though.
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Technically the first one was your warning and the others were dings with guidance. Mind you, I think mine was more polite.

An infraction would have carried points.
my apology on the terminology. its a new thing to me.

then again assuming i checked my rep every 10 minutes i would not have been "aware" of such a situation, but you did send me a pm i think once upon a time, (i just went through the pms that havent been system deleted and it was prior to 9-22-08). then again i violated it, i deserved it...
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so as long as its a "joke" its cool? youre the trier of fact?
As it happens, yes... I am indeed trier of fact. It comes with the job of being a mod/admin on this board. Take it up with Clarity if you think I'm not worthy of it.

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personally i dont find such "jokes" as humorous rather its nothing short of a slur, something that would get many of us fired or forced resignation. some of us view this place from work and derogatory slurs are not appropriate in public discourse and do not foster discussion. sure its one thing to make a joke, its a completely different level to use such language. rather its nothing sort of disgusting.... its been essentially a crackdown issue on any other part of this board.
And you're perfectly able to ding a post you believe deserves it. I may even agree with you as far as the "taste" issue goes...

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youre calling me scalia? or an idiot (again) or you think it is socially acceptable to use disparaging remarks?
I'm not calling you anything, nor am I doing so "again" I'm merely pointing out that there's a thing called discretion. Mods have to have it. And, sometimes they screw up... Oh well.. You get what you pay for, I guess.
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Just so I'm clear for future reference, posting an article without comment is a ban hammerable offense
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