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Old 10-07-2005, 01:27 AM
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What a stupid comparison.
perhaps, but it gets pretty tiring to watch guys get away with obvious cheating, and know that continuing to hide the truth will be their ticket to the HoF. Giambi is actually one of the more decent cheaters, but he's still a cheater.
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Old 10-07-2005, 09:45 AM
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Tibbs: "Baseball has no proof Giambi did roids? Uh, he admitted it on the grand jury. Oh, I guess he was lying to further his "comeback" credentials."

Tibbs, "leaked" grand jury testimony can't be admitted as evidence for anything .. when he testified, he was promised immunity. Baseball can't use it to convict him of anything.

If that testimony could be used against the Giambino, then the Yankees would've canceled his contract before the season even started.

"Yeah, Griffey certainly looks like he's done roids. Is it just a coincidence he's one of the few stars who's appearance hasn't changed in 10 years?"

So what? Did Randy Velarde or Benito Santiago (two guys specifically named in the BALCO trial)'s appearence change? Did Rafael Palmeiro's appearence change? Does Raffy look like he ever did 'roids?
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Old 10-07-2005, 09:55 AM
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If that testimony could be used against the Giambino, then the Yankees would've canceled his contract before the season even started.
Actually it could, it's called common sense and integrity, two things baseball knows nothing about. Cheaters should be kicked to the curb, but instead they are embraced and presented with awards (including the HoF in the future for some of them, since I'm sure you'll repeat that this is not a big award)
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Tibbs: "Baseball has no proof Giambi did roids? Uh, he admitted it on the grand jury. Oh, I guess he was lying to further his "comeback" credentials."

Tibbs, "leaked" grand jury testimony can't be admitted as evidence for anything .. when he testified, he was promised immunity. Baseball can't use it to convict him of anything.

If that testimony could be used against the Giambino, then the Yankees would've canceled his contract before the season even started.

"Yeah, Griffey certainly looks like he's done roids. Is it just a coincidence he's one of the few stars who's appearance hasn't changed in 10 years?"

So what? Did Randy Velarde or Benito Santiago (two guys specifically named in the BALCO trial)'s appearence change? Did Rafael Palmeiro's appearence change? Does Raffy look like he ever did 'roids?
benito santiago's biceps' inflation was simple water retention i suppose. MLB isn't trying to convict giambi of anything. you made the statement that there was no clear proof he did roids. i would say his testimony indicating such is evidence. dont try and spin your way out of it.
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Tibbs, "leaked" grand jury testimony can't be admitted as evidence for anything .. when he testified, he was promised immunity. Baseball can't use it to convict him of anything.
Who said anything about convicting him, what were were saying is that he should have never been up for the award to begin with dunbass. See they can use common sense which is something that was leaked as comman sense.

And why is Palmario so bad for pointing fingers. He took his punishment and then told MLB where he got the stuff from. If you were busted for something and saw other people who you knew were dirty than you getting off scott free wouldn't you think about mentioning names to?
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Old 10-07-2005, 10:44 AM
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