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Old 10-12-2005, 09:56 AM
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While I can appreciate that NYC and Boston, for example, have enough population to support bringing in the $$ to spend on buying All Star players, in my mind, there really isn't much of a reason any team out there can't make a similar committment.

If you're bummed that your small market team isn't competing, than have that small market team start spending some money. "We can't afford it...." Bullshit. You don't WANT to afford it. The Twins, for example... they're considered "Small Market" and yet they are the ONLY baseball for hundreds of miles to the East (Milwaukee) and 1,000s of miles West (Seattle) and hundreds south (St. Louis or Chitown) Sell the damn product and the revenue will follow. I don't want to hear about how no one can afford to compete with the Yanks. It's not that, it's that they dont WANT to.
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While I can appreciate that NYC and Boston, for example, have enough population to support bringing in the $$ to spend on buying All Star players, in my mind, there really isn't much of a reason any team out there can't make a similar committment.

If you're bummed that your small market team isn't competing, than have that small market team start spending some money. "We can't afford it...." Bullshit. You don't WANT to afford it. The Twins, for example... they're considered "Small Market" and yet they are the ONLY baseball for hundreds of miles to the East (Milwaukee) and 1,000s of miles West (Seattle) and hundreds south (St. Louis or Chitown) Sell the damn product and the revenue will follow. I don't want to hear about how no one can afford to compete with the Yanks. It's not that, it's that they dont WANT to.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:50 AM
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How is a Reds fan supposed to make the Reds spend money and compete? Yankee fans hang their hats on arguments like this because they know they have an unfair advantage and don't want to give it up. Makes you wonder how they can even be fans of other sports.......or golf for that matter
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While I can appreciate that NYC and Boston, for example, have enough population to support bringing in the $$ to spend on buying All Star players, in my mind, there really isn't much of a reason any team out there can't make a similar committment.

If you're bummed that your small market team isn't competing, than have that small market team start spending some money. "We can't afford it...." Bullshit. You don't WANT to afford it. The Twins, for example... they're considered "Small Market" and yet they are the ONLY baseball for hundreds of miles to the East (Milwaukee) and 1,000s of miles West (Seattle) and hundreds south (St. Louis or Chitown) Sell the damn product and the revenue will follow. I don't want to hear about how no one can afford to compete with the Yanks. It's not that, it's that they dont WANT to.
This is assuming a few faulty things IMO:
1) That baseball sells that well (ask any kid whether he likes football or baseball better. plus, there is CFB & NFL to be sold, both during the best time for baseball). This doesn't mean they can't do better, but it's not the easiest sport to market, especially as it continues to nosedive with the steroids stuff.
2) That if they throw money at it, suddenly they'll have the revenue to start stocking a team full of studs that is at least capable of competing with the yankees

I agree there are disgusting owners that just pocket cash, but if you think that all teams can change their philosophy and start competing with the Yankees for talent level just by marketing harder, I think you are mistaken.

In the NFL the talented teams that do market like crazy and are on top one year are often unseeded the next. Look at the 49ers. However, they won't stay down forever.
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How is a Reds fan supposed to make the Reds spend money and compete? Yankee fans hang their hats on arguments like this because they know they have an unfair advantage and don't want to give it up. Makes you wonder how they can even be fans of other sports.......or golf for that matter
I'd like to see anyone argue that the NFL isn't the best product on the market right now. If baseball was run the same way, 20-25 teams every year could be reasonably optimistic and have a reason to watch. Meanwhile, us Reds fans know that there is not a thing we can do to get in the playoffs, beyond catching lightning in a bottle.

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While I can appreciate that NYC and Boston, for example, have enough population to support bringing in the $$ to spend on buying All Star players, in my mind, there really isn't much of a reason any team out there can't make a similar committment.

If you're bummed that your small market team isn't competing, than have that small market team start spending some money. "We can't afford it...." Bullshit. You don't WANT to afford it. The Twins, for example... they're considered "Small Market" and yet they are the ONLY baseball for hundreds of miles to the East (Milwaukee) and 1,000s of miles West (Seattle) and hundreds south (St. Louis or Chitown) Sell the damn product and the revenue will follow. I don't want to hear about how no one can afford to compete with the Yanks. It's not that, it's that they dont WANT to.
Partly true, BKB, but the Yankees get $55 million a year from their local TV deal. That's more than some teams' entire payrolls. Teams can try harder, but they can't match what the Yankees spend.
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