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10-13-2005, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckeyeskickbuttocks
3) As is his perrogative as owner. You see it in the NBA as well, notably the Clippers.
The NBA has a minimum cap that teams need to reach. It keeps drones like Donald Sterling from keeping all the money for himself. Maybe that would be a great idea for baseball. It would weed out the owners that are in it for the money only, not to compete or win championships.
The min/max seems to have worked great for the NHL too. Maybe MLB can get out from under their rock and realize that, maybe not.
I don't buy this "harder to fill out" business. I just don't. Cincy is a big enough place, and Northern KY is also big enough, and close enough, that if the Reds marketed better, and had a owner who wanted to "win at all costs" as it were, they'd fill up GAB every home date. If they wanted to sell TV rights, they'd do just fine.
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NYC is the biggest tv market in the country. Advertising and rights are infinitely higher in NYC than in Cinci, Cleve, Minn, Pittsburgh. I don't think home attendance is an issue. Allot of teams draw nearly as well as the Yankees (not on the road though).
The local tv is what separates the Yanks from the rest. As much as I don't like them though, there is no way they should have to share that money.
Sorry for that size issue.!!!!
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10-13-2005, 10:35 AM
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Your analysis assumes that every person living there is a Yankee fan, for one thing.... LEts not forget, NYC has 2 teams. Boston and Philly are also very close... and steal fans from NYC.
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everybody that lives there is a yankee fan....when they are winning 
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10-13-2005, 10:35 AM
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Victory cigar! Bucky is vanquished!
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Originally Posted by Buckeyeskickbuttocks
Minneapolis Population (2000 census):
2,968,806
Boston:
Population: 600,000
Small market, indeed.
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That's a skewed statistic. That is as defined by actual city limits. When surrounding metropolitan areas (easy access to Boston thanks to mass transit) are included, I believe Boston is significantly larger than Minneapolis.
Boston Metropolitan area: 4,000,000+
Twin-Cities Metropolitan area: 3,000,000+
Minneapolis itself had a population of 382,618 in the 2000 census.
EDIT: Damn, I'm slow! Like 17 people got in ahead of me !
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10-13-2005, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Brutus1
NYC is the biggest tv market in the country. Advertising and rights are infinitely higher in NYC than in Cinci, Cleve, Minn, Pittsburgh. I don't think home attendance is an issue. Allot of teams draw nearly as well as the Yankees (not on the road though).
The local tv is what separates the Yanks from the rest. As much as I don't like them though, there is no way they should have to share that money.
Sorry for that size issue.!!!!
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I wholly conceed that Baseball could/should be run better. The league has historically had it's head up its own ass. There is no real reason it's immune from Anti-trust laws, for example. The system in place may have been fine and dandy when it was arranged back in the day, and when baseball was the "only game in town" as it were.
They need to revampt the whole thing if they want to encourage long term parity.
With regard to the TV thing, in today's day and age, there is no reason why you can't sell the Yankees to people in Mililani Hawaii if you think that'll work. Obviously, it's easier to sell TV to local areas, and you'll get more local interest than you will in Hawaii (for the Yankees, anyway) but there really is no reason - other than marketing - that in the modern world, a team can't sell TV all over the place. Hell, if I'm seattle, I make a big ass deal with Japan to broadcast Mariners games. Why? Cause they'd all tune in to see Ichiro.
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10-13-2005, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucky Katt
That's a skewed statistic. That is as defined by actual city limits. When surrounding metropolitan areas (easy access to Boston thanks to mass transit) are included, I believe Boston is significantly larger than Minneapolis.
Boston Metropolitan area: 4,000,000+
Twin-Cities Metropolitan area: 3,000,000+
Minneapolis itself had a population of 382,618 in the 2000 census.
EDIT: Damn, I'm slow! Like 17 people got in ahead of me !
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I just googled it quick, I didn't go looking for numbers that confirmed my suspicion. (And I admit, I thought the Boston Populaton looked a little thin) Minneapolis may well be only 382,618 but since St. Paul is the same city, you have to add those numbers in as well. I don't know if you have ever been to the Twin Cities, but they are literally the same place.
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10-13-2005, 10:44 AM
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