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Old 10-13-2005, 10:35 PM
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There was a time earlier in the game where a similar situation arose. The ump put his arm out to the side, presumably to signal a swinging strike, but he didn't pumphis fist until after a delay when the batter was finally tagged out. Pretty clear how the ump was doing his motions. In the 9th, he put his arm out to the side and almost immediately pumped his fist. Both motions. I'm no expert, but that looks an awful lot like he called the batter out.
nope. he delayed in both instances.
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Old 10-13-2005, 11:34 PM
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I saw much more of a delay the first time and the fist pump and clearly waited till the tag was made unlike in the 9th where he went to the fist pump right after the extended arm and clearly not waiting for any tag to be applied.
I loved the umps after the game, they were circling the wagons like nothing else. Of course they weren't going to admit to making the wrong call, I could've predicted that before it even came out of their mouth's. Man, it had to be tough to be an Angles fan today.
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Eddings did mention yesterday that he didn't say 'no catch' on the play, which is something he had done on similar plays earlier in the game. That's the only legitimate beef that the Angels have. But Paul still should have made the tag, and they need to move on.
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the explanations after the game by the umps shows they had no clue what was going on during the play.
no...they show YOU had no clue what was going on during the play. The umpires did. Some of the questions they were asked were stupid...they were just trying to get them to say something that they could use against them. The umpires had to choose their words VERY carefully.

And again...you all are looking into the mechanics WAY TOO MUCH. Players don't look at an umpire's mechanics...they are for the fans. I'm sorry if the fans are confused by Eddings mechanics, but the players weren't. If they say that they were, they are flat out lying. The catcher can't see the umpire...and he's not waiting to hear the umpire say "no catch." Eddings probably doesn't say, "no catch" in that situation anyway. He probably just lets the play go, as many umpires do.
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I was watching OTL at lunch (i didn't change it in time and i saw the play. figured i'd watch) and they showed the replay about 100 times from 100 different angles. I have no doubt now that it hit the ground.
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no...they show YOU had no clue what was going on during the play. The umpires did. Some of the questions they were asked were stupid...they were just trying to get them to say something that they could use against them. The umpires had to choose their words VERY carefully.
Good thing they're not Presidents or we'd have impeachment proceedings looming...
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