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View Poll Results: Who gets the required 75% vote today?
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Bruce Sutter
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Goose Gossage
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Lee Smith
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Orel Hershiser
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Doc Gooden
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01-10-2006, 10:33 AM
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My dad hated Rose because of the Ray Fosse collision in the 1970 All Star game..absolutely hated the guy.
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01-10-2006, 10:34 AM
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My dad hated Rose because of the Ray Fosse collision in the 1970 All Star game..absolutely hated the guy.
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That's a reason to love Pete. The guy would run over his own mother to win a ball game.
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01-10-2006, 10:37 AM
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Agreed...I loved the way Rose played. Then again, my favorite player of all-time is Tyrus Raymond Cobb.
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01-10-2006, 10:39 AM
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Agreed...I loved the way Rose played. Then again, my favorite player of all-time is Tyrus Raymond Cobb.
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I would give you greenies for that but already did today. I know tyrus3 will be liking that.
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01-10-2006, 11:06 AM
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Jim Rice needs to be in there. Guy was one of, if not the most feared hitter in the AL for a decade. He put up some huge numbers in the pre "juiced ball" era.
Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP
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1974 21 BOS AL 24 67 6 18 2 1 1 13 0 0 4 12 .269 .307 .373 25 0 3 0 1 2
1975 22 BOS AL 144 564 92 174 29 4 22 102 10 5 36 122 .309 .350 .491 277 1 8 7 4 19
1976 23 BOS AL 153 581 75 164 25 8 25 85 8 5 28 123 .282 .315 .482 280 2 9 2 4 18
1977 24 BOS AL 160 644 104 206 29 15 39 114 5 4 53 120 .320 .376 .593 382 0 5 10 8 21
1978 25 BOS AL 163 677 121 213 25 15 46 139 7 5 58 126 .315 .370 .600 406 1 5 7 5 15
1979 26 BOS AL 158 619 117 201 39 6 39 130 9 4 57 97 .325 .381 .596 369 0 8 4 4 16
1980 27 BOS AL 124 504 81 148 22 6 24 86 8 3 30 87 .294 .336 .504 254 1 3 5 4 16
1981 28 BOS AL 108 451 51 128 18 1 17 62 2 2 34 76 .284 .333 .441 199 0 7 3 3 14
1982 29 BOS AL 145 573 86 177 24 5 24 97 0 1 55 98 .309 .375 .494 283 0 3 6 7 29
1983 30 BOS AL 155 626 90 191 34 1 39 126 0 2 52 102 .305 .361 .550 344 0 5 10 6 31
1984 31 BOS AL 159 657 98 184 25 7 28 122 4 0 44 102 .280 .323 .467 307 0 6 8 1 36
1985 32 BOS AL 140 546 85 159 20 3 27 103 2 0 51 75 .291 .349 .487 266 0 9 5 2 35
1986 33 BOS AL 157 618 98 200 39 2 20 110 0 1 62 78 .324 .384 .490 303 0 9 5 4 19
1987 34 BOS AL 108 404 66 112 14 0 13 62 1 1 45 77 .277 .357 .408 165 0 3 3 7 22
1988 35 BOS AL 135 485 57 128 18 3 15 72 1 1 48 89 .264 .330 .406 197 0 6 2 3 18
1989 36 BOS AL 56 209 22 49 10 2 3 28 1 0 13 39 .234 .276 .344 72 0 5 0 1 4
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16 Seasons 8225 2452 79 1451 34 1423 .298 .352 .502 5 94 77 64 315
2089 1249 373 382 58 670 4129
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162 Game Avg 638 97 190 29 6 30 113 4 3 52 110 .298 .352 .502 320 0 7 6 5 24
Career High 163 677 121 213 39 15 46 139 10 5 62 126 .325 .384 .600 406 2 9 10 8 36
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01-10-2006, 11:22 AM
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Don't hate in '08.
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As a knucklehead Red Sox fan, I wanna make more of a case for Rice.
As I said earlier, spanning 12 years (1975-86) Rice led all American League players in 12 different offensive categories, including home runs (350), RBI (1,276), total bases (3,670), slugging percentage (.520), runs (1,098) and hits (2,145). And when you add in all of the National League players from the same era, Rice still leads in five categories and finishes second in three others.
In addition to winning the AL MVP in 1978, Rice finished in the top five in AL MVP voting five other times. He led the AL in homers three times and twice led the league in RBI.
A little historical perspective.... among all major leaguers, only nine players have compiled as high a career batting average (.298) and as many homers. They are: Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, Mel Ott, Hank Aaron, Jimmie Foxx, Lou Gehrig, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays and Stan Musial. They're all hall of famers. Rice should be too.
Rice was 18 homers shy of 400 and he's 2 points shy of batting .300 for his career. It's been said that had Rice reached these marks, he would automatically get in. Benchmarks are constantly changing though. I think he's done enough to punch his ticket to Cooperstown.
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01-10-2006, 11:26 AM
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