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07-16-2006, 06:21 PM
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Narron really needs to play Edwin everyday. He is one of the teams best hitters, and good things happen when he plays. He has reached base 7 of his last 9 plate appearances and in the last 2 games he have played we scored 15 runs, compared to 6 in the last 2 games he didn't. Sure he makes errors sometimes, but he also makes some great defensive plays and gets to balls that Rich doesn't.
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07-16-2006, 08:09 PM
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4-0.
Narron really needs to play Edwin everyday. He is one of the teams best hitters, and good things happen when he plays. He has reached base 7 of his last 9 plate appearances and in the last 2 games he have played we scored 15 runs, compared to 6 in the last 2 games he didn't. Sure he makes errors sometimes, but he also makes some great defensive plays and gets to balls that Rich doesn't.
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He will eventually play more but he has to learn how to field the ball better. He just came off the DL anyways, he will get more time.
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07-16-2006, 09:41 PM
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sports talk show host, Lance McCallister is reporting on his blog that the Reds are making a run at Elmer Dessens and Reggie Sanders from the Royals and they are also going after Kyle Loshe of the Twins.
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07-16-2006, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Honor&Glory
sports talk show host, Lance McCallister is reporting on his blog that the Reds are making a run at Elmer Dessens and Reggie Sanders from the Royals and they are also going after Kyle Loshe of the Twins.
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Why on earth would the Reds want Sanders and Dessens back? Dessens would provide some help, but Sanders doesn't make any sense to me, and the Reds certainly don't need more outfielders; they've been trying to unload a surplus of outfielders for three years now.
I'd rather Lohse stay in Minnesota, unless we get to swap him for Milton even-up. Lohse is a flyball pitcher with a career ERA near 5. Him and GABP would be a disaster. His $4M salary doesn't improve the club either, especially if the Reds would have to pay Medicare for Clayton and Sanders.
I'd rather take a chance calling up Homer Bailey and let the chips fall where they may.
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07-16-2006, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dryden
Why on earth would the Reds want Sanders and Dessens back? Dessens would provide some help, but Sanders doesn't make any sense to me, and the Reds certainly don't need more outfielders; they've been trying to unload a surplus of outfielders for three years now.
I'd rather Lohse stay in Minnesota, unless we get to swap him for Milton even-up. Lohse is a flyball pitcher with a career ERA near 5. Him and GABP would be a disaster. His $4M salary doesn't improve the club either, especially if the Reds would have to pay Medicare for Clayton and Sanders.
I'd rather take a chance calling up Homer Bailey and let the chips fall where they may.
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Wise is the current backup OF if you dont include Freel. Sanders would be nice off the bench and to play a copule games a week. Now I'm sure the Royals would have to eat some of his contract for the Reds to go after this deal.
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07-16-2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by keeganbrick
Wise is the current backup OF if you dont include Freel. Sanders would be nice off the bench and to play a copule games a week. Now I'm sure the Royals would have to eat some of his contract for the Reds to go after this deal.
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I agree if he comes as a backup outfielder, but Narron loves him his vets so Reggie would probably start over Deno. Just look what he has done with Rich/Edwin.
As for Dessens, this team needs a 5th starter. Marching Claussen or Mays out their every 5th day isn't going to cut it down the stretch. I certainly wouldn't give up anything of not for him, but Elmer is a good target.
Wise is terrible. I would rather see Brandon Watson up here then him.
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07-16-2006, 10:51 PM
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I agree if he comes as a backup outfielder, but Narron loves him his vets so Reggie would probably start over Deno. Just look what he has done with Rich/Edwin.
As for Dessens, this team needs a 5th starter. Marching Claussen or Mays out their every 5th day isn't going to cut it down the stretch. I certainly wouldn't give up anything of not for him, but Elmer is a good target.
Wise is terrible. I would rather see Brandon Watson up here then him.
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My bias towards Reggie (my favorite Red) would want him to start over Deno but I know that isnt whats best for this team. Sanders would be great as a 3rd day player and in case Deno does start to struggle(I dont think he will) Sanders could step in. We already have Dunn and Griffey who K too much to have Sanders in the lineup every day. We need contact and small ball, which is what Deno brings to the plate.
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07-17-2006, 10:28 PM
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ESPN's Buster Olney chimes in, as the only analyst I've read who understands why Krivsky did what he felt he had to do:
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http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...e=olney_buster
Summary: Olney likens middle relievers to oil stocks: They're volatile, but their value is always increasing. Really, if you look at player salaries by positions, middle relievers have always gotten the short end of the stick when you consider their "worth" versus what they actually get paid. Bottom line, you can't win without a bullpen, and GMs are collectively having their "Eureka moment" and are beginning to realize this. Problem is ... there aren't any good middle relievers out there.
As an aside, Krivsky refuses to call them "middle relievers," he thinks there are (1) closers, (2) short/middle guys, (3) long guys, and (4) guys who can get a lead to the closer.
Group #4, the "setup man," is the hardest to get. The Yankees just set a precedent this past off season when they paid $17M for Kyle Farnsworth, then the BoSox went and set off the price war when they got Tavarez and Seanez. The Mets went out of their way to get Duaner Sanchez, actually trading a starter for a setup man.
Essentially, Krivsky sees the trade as a win-win. Either they fix the bullpen and allow Weathers and Coffey to actually get days of rest, or what they got will still be just as valuable to somebody else -- particularly Bray.
Olney mentions that Krivsky feels he got his guys, his "setup men," while Bowden feels he merely traded some "middle relievers."
That last parting shot sums up everything right with Krivsky and wrong with Bowden.
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