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Old 12-04-2007, 06:27 PM
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word is we are trying to work a deal for Alex Rios

We'd give up Cliff Lee and Frankin Guitierez
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Detroit getting Miguel and Dontrelle swings the power in the central....Detroit has to be the favorite in the central at this point

Call me crazy, but I'd rather have Miguel Cabrera than A-Rod
Goddamnit. Baseball drives me nuts. It's so disappointing that the Indians could not capitalize last year, because the AL is an arms race right now, and the Indians have the budget of fucking Guatamala compared to the Yanks, Red Sox, Angels and Tigers.

The worst thing to happen to the Indians... salary cap in the NHL. Now the Tigers' owner can take all of that money he was spending on the Red Wings and dump it into the Tigers.

I hate to say, but the Indians are not in much of a different situation right now with Sabathia than the Twins are with Santana, the A's are with Haren, or the Marlins were with Dontrelle. Small market teams have to trade these big-time players because they just can't sign them. And you have to hope those prospects you get in return can peak at the same time. (I thought that's what happened last year for the Indians).


EDIT: From now on, I'm not just an Indians fan. I'm a fan of any small market team that goes out and prevents these teams from buying championships.
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Old 12-04-2007, 06:53 PM
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speaking of C.C., not such good news there. Shapiro has stated they will not use any other "pitcher" contracts as a barometer for what they offer C.C.

Translation: We will be hoping C.C. takes a home-town discount
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Translation: We will be hoping C.C. takes a home-town discount
Awesome. Considering he's from L.A., he'll be an Angel by this time next year.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:02 PM
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Awesome. Considering he's from L.A., he'll be an Angel by this time next year.
unless he's traded, which they've (Indians management) have avoided by saying at every opportune moment we won't do

By mid-season, if we aren't playing well, you can bet he's gone. If we are playing well, we can watch him leave like Manny, Thome, and a slew of others
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He is gone. It just hasn't been made public.

Tribe ownership HAS to spin this or risk whatever goodwill the team has.
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Old 12-04-2007, 08:13 PM
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He is gone. It just hasn't been made public.

Tribe ownership HAS to spin this or risk whatever goodwill the team has.
I'd agree he's gone after this year. If that is the case though, the ownership needs to make a move and acquire solid talent. The worst thing to do is let the guy walk out of here without getting anything in return.

I'll understand if we're in the thick of it come trade-dealine next year and we decide to ride the season out in hopes of a world series, but if we're 6 or more back, I think it's time to unload C.C. and get something of value. And then boycott ownership for being stingy even though they were top 10 in profits 2 years ago.
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Detroit getting Miguel and Dontrelle swings the power in the central....Detroit has to be the favorite in the central at this point

Call me crazy, but I'd rather have Miguel Cabrera than A-Rod
not to hijack your Indians thread but I think the Tigers and Red Sox have to be WS favorites right now(assuming the Santana deal goes down). As a die-hard Detroit fan this is the most excited I have been for a baseball season ever.
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not to hijack your Indians thread but I think the Tigers and Red Sox have to be WS favorites right now(assuming the Santana deal goes down). As a die-hard Detroit fan this is the most excited I have been for a baseball season ever.
I'd be excited too as a Detroit fan, but if the Red Sox get Johan, what's the point for anyone?

Johan, Beckett, Schilling, Daiskue, Buckholtz

Jesus.
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