Indians Tidbits (2008 season)

[tsteele316]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

After last winter, I just want some kind of a move. The Tribe had a nice year, but many other teams are improving and Shapiro cannot stand pat if he wants to make a serious run at a championship.

"improving" is a bit of a misnomer. Detroit is improving for a 1 year run, provided the Mitchell report doesn't submarine some of their lineup. and even if it doesn't, they still hang their hopes on the notion that the oft injured 40 year old sheffield can still go, that pudge can still hang in there, than the gambler can give them a full season, and that dontrelle willis really isn't a hack. all of that while hoping ordonez can duplicate his career year numbers.

on paper, detroit is a better ballclub. however, a few injuries, and they are in some trouble.

as for the indians, if they give up a chunk of the farm to net haren and/or chavez, i'd almost bank on CC getting dealt if he doesn't sign before the trade deadline.

[LitlBuck]

Originally Posted by tsteele316

"improving" is a bit of a misnomer. Detroit is improving for a 1 year run, provided the Mitchell report doesn't submarine some of their lineup. and even if it doesn't, they still hang their hopes on the notion that the oft injured 40 year old sheffield can still go, that pudge can still hang in there, than the gambler can give them a full season, and that dontrelle willis really isn't a hack. all of that while hoping ordonez can duplicate his career year numbers.

on paper, detroit is a better ballclub. however, a few injuries, and they are in some trouble.

as for the indians, if they give up a chunk of the farm to net haren and/or chavez, i'd almost bank on CC getting dealt if he doesn't sign before the trade deadline.

Totally agree with your comments regarding the Tigers. Plus there one year plan might not pan out if a couple of their "older" players don't even make it through the season.

I would like to make the deal for Harren because I don't think it necessarily means we still would not be able to afford C. C. Harren it is signed through 2010 starting and a little over 5 mil and increasing 1 mil each year through 2010. Plus getting Harren for really an "unknown" prospect like Miller does not bother me. I have heard they want Miller, Laffey, Sowers, and possibly Crowe. If they would take Lee instead of Laffey, I would say deal for Harren.

I am not sure about Chaves because he has been injured off and downed the past couple seasons and I would think that the price would be too steep if we wanted him to be included in a deal.

[Brutus1]

The A's want Cabrera in the deal, too.

[LitlBuck]

Originally Posted by Brutus1

The A's want Cabrera in the deal, too.

No deal... Herren will not be in the Indian is the A's want Cabrera

[Bucks21]

Haren to the D-Backs, so now who does the Tribe go after?

[Best Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Bucks21

Haren to the D-Backs, so now who does the Tribe go after?

Tyrone Willingham?

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by Bucks21

Haren to the D-Backs, so now who does the Tribe go after?

Who the hell knows.

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

CPD

INDIANS
Byrd tells MLB of his HGH use

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 Paul Hoynes

Plain Dealer Reporter

Paul Byrd, one of two Indians employees named in the Mitchell Report, met with MLB officials in New York on Monday to discuss his use of human growth hormone (HGH).
Tim Laker, the other employee named in the report, is recovering from an undisclosed surgery. General Manager Mark Shapiro said Laker, a former Indians catcher who managed Class A Mahoning Valley last season, is still working for the team and will talk about his situation in spring training.
Recommendations in the Mitchell Report called for more "non-analytical" investigation into use of performance enhancing substances by players. Until recently, the only way a player could be disciplined was through a positive drug test. If Byrd is disciplined, it would be through non-analytical means because MLB has no test for HGH.

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[OSUBasketballJunkie]

Dispatch

Indians' Lara undergoes two surgeries in Cleveland

Indians reliever Juan Lara underwent a pair of surgeries Sunday to stabilize his spine and repair a broken bone in his left arm. The operations were performed by Dr. Jeff Lawton and Dr. Doug Orr at the Cleveland Clinic.
Team officials have been encouraged by his recovery and believe he will eventually return to a normal life.
Lara was critically injured in a car accident last month in his native Dominican Republic. He was recently flown to Cleveland for the surgeries. A team spokesman said he will soon return to the Dominican Republic for further treatment, before beginning rehabilitation in the coming weeks.

-- Scott Priestle

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

ABJ

Five minor-leaguers sign deals with Tribe
Invitations included for spring training
By Sheldon Ocker
Beacon Journal sportswriter

Published on Saturday, Dec 22, 2007

The Indians on Friday signed five players to minor-league contracts that include an invitation to spring training, bringing the team's total to nine.
Three infielders, Andy Gonzalez, Aaron Herr and Danny Sandoval, right-hander Matt Ginter and catcher Armando Camacaro are the latest to join the Tribe.
Ginter, 30, probably is the best-known player of the group, having made 92 big-league appearances from 2000-2005 with the White Sox, Mets and Tigers. His major-league numbers: a 4-4 record and 5.46 ERA, including 15 starts. Last season, he was 2-6 with a 4.05 ERA in 31 games (eight starts) with Memphis, the Triple-A affiliate of the Cardinals.

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[LitlBuck]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

Who the hell knows.

I was listening to a sports talk show on STO a week or two ago and they said that the Athletics have another "quality" pitcher that they may be shopping. I have forgotten his name and too lazy to look at the roster.

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by LitlBuck

I was listening to a sports talk show on STO a week or two ago and they said that the Athletics have another "quality" pitcher that they may be shopping. I have forgotten his name and too lazy to look at the roster.

Blanton. Meh.

[LitlBuck]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

Blanton. Meh.

Yup. It was Blanton. Would he be worth a look see? I know it would be depend on what they would want for him but is he even worth a look or are our 5 starters all better.

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by LitlBuck

Yup. It was Blanton. Would he be worth a look see? I know it would be depend on what they would want for him but is he even worth a look or are our 5 starters all better.

I don't see where he'd be big enough an upgrade to warrant moving prospects.

[LitlBuck]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

I don't see where he'd be big enough an upgrade to warrant moving prospects.

I guess that I am getting tired of Shapiro holding on to "prospects". At least Blanton is a proven major league pitcher. I guess my question is how long do we keep on holding on to other "prospects" without trying to upgrade.