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Old 12-04-2004, 02:02 PM
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Great points Sloops...but how you going to leave out 191 and 110 as magic numbers?
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Oh, and one other thing: this is the most interesting stat of the whole story. Bonds allegedly got involved with BALCO and started taking the roids in 2000. Bill James, the noted baseball historian, took the distances of each and every one of Bonds' Home Runs in his entire career and the weather conditions of each game and came up with this:

Pre-2000, Bonds hit 3 Home Runs that traveled 455+ feet, and all three were aided by 15 mph winds. Since 2000, he has hit 26 Homers of 455+ feet. TWENTY-SIX!! Repeat: 26 in four seasons, versus THREE in sixteen seasons!!

That's some powerful "flax-seed oil and balm" that Bonds was taking from Greg Anderson and BALCO.
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Great points Sloops...but how you going to leave out 191 and 110 as magic numbers?
b/c those aren't magic numbers. The RBI record doesn't have that kind of awe surrounding it.
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Luca: "but how you going to leave out 191 and 110 as magic numbers?"

What are those?? I can only guess that 110 is Walter Johnson's Shutout record. Is that correct?

Tibbs: "The RBI record doesn't have that kind of awe surrounding it."

Isn't the RBI record 190??
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Luca: "but how you going to leave out 191 and 110 as magic numbers?"

What are those?? I can only guess that 110 is Walter Johnson's Shutout record. Is that correct?

Tibbs: "The RBI record doesn't have that kind of awe surrounding it."

Isn't the RBI record 190??
yes. so he may be referring to something else.
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b/c those aren't magic numbers. The RBI record doesn't have that kind of awe surrounding it.
They aren't considered magic numbers because nobody has seriously approached them. Every year, someone has a monster first half and gets Hack Wilson's name swirling....by August, it is not heard again.

Still prominent numbers in baseball though...

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yes. so he may be referring to something else.
That remarkable 1930 season he set two legendary marks. The 56 home runs he walloped were a National League record that stood until 1998, when Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa both obliterated his -- and Roger Maris' -- record. But the single-season record that still stands from that year was his RBI mark of 190 -- later to be officially changed in the record books in 1999 to 191, as he became one of the first dead players ever to notch an RBI. Though contenders to the crown have come close, no player has gotten within 25 RBIs of the mark since 1938.

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Old 12-04-2004, 02:20 PM
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I'm an ol' timer. I refuse to acknowledge baseball's revisionist historians.

Yet another reason it's not a magic number. So it was 190 for 40 years, and then 191 for 5? hard to be a "magic number" if it can change.
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