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I don't want to get blasted for this, but don't you guys think LeBron will be looking to get out of Cleveland and go elsewhere when his contract is up in a few years??
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But he is still better than LeBron, as is Dwyane Wade, in the clutch. That's what the "it" factor is to me.

Also, with that Logic, Magic Johnson doesn't have "it" because he played with Kareem Abdul Jabar. And neither does any Hall of Fame player that played with Bill Russell.

I think you're missing my point. The 'it' factor in question is that great complementary player. Kobe had it with Shaq, DWade has it with Shaq, Magic had it with Kareem.

Kobe's better, but he's selfish. He ruined the best thing to happen to him(Shaq, not that episode in Beaver Creek).

Wade simply is not better.
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I don't want to get blasted for this, but don't you guys think LeBron will be looking to get out of Cleveland and go elsewhere when his contract is up in a few years??
Yes I do. Especially if he doesn't at least reach the Finals.
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Yes I do. Especially if he doesn't at least reach the Finals.
Wonder if he'd want to hoop it up with D-Wade in South Beach. That would be fun to watch.
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Wonder if he'd want to hoop it up with D-Wade in South Beach. That would be fun to watch.
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It sure would(especially for Heat fans).

I'd rather have them both in Cleveland, though. After a championship, you can have them back.
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It sure would(especially for Heat fans).

I'd rather have them both in Cleveland, though. After a championship, you can have them back.
I think we can both admit they are two fun players to watch and two great players. No matter what faults they have.
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Boy, wouldn't it be fun if Shaq, Yao and Duncan all played on the same team?
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Boy, wouldn't it be fun if Shaq, Yao and Duncan all played on the same team?
That would be pretty damn interesting. I doubt it would work. 3 big [censored]ers on the court at the same time.
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What's that mean?? Obviously you were joking but I was just going along with it.
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You guys are a joke. Wade gets the calls because he drives in to the lane more than any other player in the league. He isn't like LeBron where he hangs out near the three point line jacking shots. And, oh yea, if you hadn't noticed, LeBron is a terrible free throw shooter ( .678%). He is scared to take free throws, especially when it matters. He needs to get something. He doesn't have that "it" factor yet.
Lebron drives just as much as Wade(maybe a little less, but not so much that the free throw difference last year was that large).

Lebron is terrible this year, but even last year when he was making them, he still wasn't getting the calls while pretty boy wade was.

Lebron DID make clutch shots last year. Did you miss the entire Washington series?

It's easy to say he isn't clutch when he misses shots during the regular season, but he made them in the playoffs when they really mattered.

As a sidenote, this is why it [censored]es me off when people say Gilbert Arenas is clutch. Yeah, it's one thing to make the shot when there is no playoff pressure, but we all saw him wilt last year when Lebron psyched him out.

Lebron has proved that he's clutch. You just don't know anything.
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Wade has had his best year this year until he got hurt without Shaq. The "it" factor is being able to hit game winning shots and do what it takes to win. And at the end of games, Shaq isn't even on the floor. And Wade leads the league in 4th quarter points, when Shaq doesn't even play much.

This entirely proves my point that Wade isn't nearly as good as he's given credit for. Even you admit that Wade is having his best year this year, yet one stat you choose to ignore is that Miami is only 25-21 with him in the lineup. Why does the team have such a poor record even with DWade in the lineup? Because Shaq's not been around much this year. Face it, fella, Wade only has reached the heights he's been to b/c of Shaq. Accordingly, any statements that Wade's the best player in the NBA or any comparisons to Jordan (who was able to win without talent anywhere near Shaq, Mourning, etc.) are totally ridiculous.
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And if you want to use that logic, I guess Kobe doesn't have "it" anymore.
...which is why Kobe's not winning NBA titles anymore and DWade is. Which proves that Shaq is the "it" factor, not what you perceive to be DWade's ability to drive to the hoop better than anyone in the league and take over games in the fourth quarter. Please continue to post other things that further our argument, not yours. I think it's kind of funny how you get confused and say things that end up undermining your argument.
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