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11-14-2005, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeNation27
i think if Lebron wasn't a cav, this board would treat him like mike vick.
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How does LBJ compare to Vick? Besides the fact that they are two of the best athletes in their respective sports I don't see many similarities. Lebron is good at every aspect of his game. Vick is only good at 1 aspect of his game, running the ball. If Lebron was like Vick he would only be good at driving to the hoop and wouldn't be able to shoot for [censored]. From the sound of it Lebron has been busting his ass to be a better shooter this season. His 3 pt % is just under 40% this season which isn't bad.
As a non Cav fan do you watch Lebron and think, "He isn't that good"? I think last night they figured out that the Cavs have enough of a team now that they don't need to run the show through Lebron all the time, which is only going to make everyone better. Personally, I think the Falcons would be better if they stopped running the show through Vick and turned him into a "Slash" rather than a QB.
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11-14-2005, 12:14 PM
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As a non Cav fan do you watch Lebron and think, "He isn't that good"?
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no, but I don't say that about Vick either. If by "not that good" you mean "not as good as everybody jizzing over him thinks", then yes....I don't think he is as good as everybody thinks right now. He will be, but he's not yet.
my comment was more towards the cleveland fanbase and how they underrate anybody good...unless they are playing in cleveland. then all of a sudden that person is god. |
11-14-2005, 04:45 PM
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I find you comparison a little weird BN27  , but nonethelees here go my thoughts.
Ok I am a Mike Vick fan and Lebron fan. Both play for my favorite teams. I defend Vick when people try to bash him b/c they think he can only run, well alot of people are mistaken there in my opinion and I think he could bring a superbowl to ATL b4 it is over with.
As for comparing him to LBJ that isnt a good comparison b/c Lebron could easily take over as the best player in the league this year and Vick is maybe in the top 5 of QB's.
I said earlier in the thread about 2 months ago that Lebron will bring championships to cleveland like Jordan brought them to Chi-town.
I don't understand why people dont think this can't happen. Lebron consistently has games just like Jordan did, He can shoot the 3-ball better and he has moves just like Jordan. I also think James got his wing-man faster than Jordan, b/c Hughes has showed us why they brought him in this year.
I think the only thing missing with the Cavs is Gooden a little more experience and bulk and a Good PG that can move the ball up the floor and play defense, and some better defense.
They have the bench, they have 3 guys that can put up good numbers, the have shooters, and they have a good coach in place that will get them to play D.
I know some of you would be suprised to see Cleveland there in the final four at the end of the year, but I honestly wouldn't. Lebron can take over any game by himself and with him and hughes together they will do big things.
Yeah I might be highly optimistic but when you have a once in a lifetime player why not be optimistic.
They have two loses one to the Spurs where they forgot to come out of the locker room at half-time, and Memphis where they were coming off that tough loss to the spurs.
They have been dominant at Home, and I look for that to continue.
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11-14-2005, 04:56 PM
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I'm not really comparing Vick and Lebron.........Lebron wins that every time. I'm just saying that Cleveland fans tend to overrate their players while underrating anybody else.
For instance, I went to a Cavs-6ers game when I was in Cleveland for the NCAA tourny. Lebron had an off night, but AI went off. This was my first time seeing Lebron.....and technically my first time seeing AI (I've only been to 1 other NBA game, in Philly. I was about 4 rows from the roof. Couldn't see much.). I think AI is the best player in the NBA. I don't think many Cavs fans would agree.
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11-14-2005, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by StadiumDorm
2. I still question Lebron's ability to take over a game in the fourth quarter. He absolutely disappeared while Orlando made their comeback.
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I 'm going to agree with you there. Actually, he didn't disappear, he was there, taking bad 18-25ft shots. They weren't face up shots either, they were fadeaways with a guy all over him.
He has enough respect from the officials now that more often than not, if he drives to the hoop, he's either going to get the points or the call. It was driving me crazy yesterday in the 4th.
When he came out in overtime, he was driving to the hoop and drew at least 3 calls, with one being a continuation three point play. |
11-14-2005, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeNation27
For instance, I went to a Cavs-6ers game when I was in Cleveland for the NCAA tourny. Lebron had an off night, but AI went off. This was my first time seeing Lebron.....and technically my first time seeing AI (I've only been to 1 other NBA game, in Philly. I was about 4 rows from the roof. Couldn't see much.). I think AI is the best player in the NBA. I don't think many Cavs fans would agree.
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Ok, now you really are full of beans. AI best in the game? You must not watch much NBA do you ? You must be too busy watching those damn Raiders
blowing another game!!!! Hey, I'm with you there.
Getting back to it, I wouldn't call LBJ the best in the league. At least not yet. At this point, Garnett still have him, as well as a couple others , beat.
The thing about Lebron is that if has has an off night shooting, he still contributes with steals, rebounds and assists. His shooting has actually improved alot since he came into the league.
Iverson is good, but no where near the best in the NBA. For one, he takes too many shots, and doesn't shoot that well. He takes nearly 25 shots a game and shoots near 40%. I like watching him play, but I can think of at least 10 guys I'd take over him.
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11-14-2005, 05:19 PM
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Ok, now you really are full of beans. AI best in the game? You must not watch much NBA do you ? You must be too busy watching those damn Raiders
blowing another game!!!! Hey, I'm with you there.
Getting back to it, I wouldn't call LBJ the best in the league. At least not yet. At this point, Garnett still have him, as well as a couple others , beat.
The thing about Lebron is that if has has an off night shooting, he still contributes with steals, rebounds and assists. His shooting has actually improved alot since he came into the league.
Iverson is good, but no where near the best in the NBA. For one, he takes too many shots, and doesn't shoot that well. He takes nearly 25 shots a game and shoots near 40%. I like watching him play, but I can think of at least 10 guys I'd take over him. |
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11-14-2005, 05:36 PM
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