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Unreal, I can hear the players now chant, "No Slavery, Get The Chains Off". NBA and the owners don't own the players. I think that it's great there doing research on what are the most problem spots to hang out at but to ban them from going there no. There adults, give them the information and let them make the decision for themselves.
If the NBA wants to make it a condition of employement than so be it. no body is forcing these guys to be basketball players. If they dont like the rules they can get jobs doing something else.
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:12 PM
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If the NBA wants to make it a condition of employement than so be it. no body is forcing these guys to be basketball players. If they dont like the rules they can get jobs doing something else.
OK, let me put it this way, your manager where you work says, you can no longer go to Ohio State football games b/c they are afraid for your safety.

Are you going to comply?

And quitting for you is nothing as compared to these guys who have multi-million $$ contracts.
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WE discussed last year on teh board the pros/cons of employers who forbid their employees to smoke, even on their own time. The rationale being that it increases health care for the company.

This isn't exactly the same, but it's similar.
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OK, let me put it this way, your manager where you work says, you can no longer go to Ohio State football games b/c they are afraid for your safety.

Are you going to comply?

And quitting for you is nothing as compared to these guys who have multi-million $$ contracts.
You are correct quiting in not as easy....but with other jobs I have had I was told I could not go to certain places. As a matter of fact got written up once just for being in a bar with another manager when employees walked in. I was told that I was not to be in any bar where my employee might be hanging out.
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I was told that I was not to be in any bar where my employee might be hanging out.
And what did you think of that rule?
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And what did you think of that rule?
Thought it was a stupid rule, but followed it while I worked for the company.
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Thought it was a stupid rule, but followed it while I worked for the company.
Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
Thats my whole thing with the NBA rule I don't think it is really a good rule, but totally within the right of them as a company to make the rule.
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NBA players provide frivolous entertainment to a percentage of the nation who cares about the sport.
Not from the perspective of the people who set the rules and pay the players. NBA players are paid millions upon millions of dollars, because their skill set is expected to bring in enough money to turn a profit. If you're the Cleveland Cavaliers, and you're paying LeBron tremendous amounts of money to provide a season worth of expected revenue, and he gets shot at a club and misses half a season recuperating, how do you get that money back? You don't. You pay for his health care to recover, and the fans which would have shown up to the arena to watch him play stay home. You pay him millions and earn nothing in return. It was said before that it's pretty standard to keep players off ATVs and such; if certain clubs are considered dangerous enough that there's a risk of injury, I see that falling under the same category.

It's not like every establishment in the city is off limits. It's not like they can't go out at night and have fun. If a ban is imposed, it would likely be limited to things like after-hours clubs and ones with a noted history of violence. buckeyefool is saying exactly what I'm saying: It's entirely within the right of a company to set limits as conditions of employment. I don't like being told I can't go to certain places either (though most of them I never had any interest in the first place) but it's a condition of employment.
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Thats my whole thing with the NBA rule I don't think it is really a good rule, but totally within the right of them as a company to make the rule.
I don't question whether the NBA "CAN" do what they want to do here. But the propriety of the rule, and the precedent of "control" that it sets is absurd.

Again, if you want to protect your investment, put it in the contract.
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You are correct quiting in not as easy....but with other jobs I have had I was told I could not go to certain places. As a matter of fact got written up once just for being in a bar with another manager when employees walked in. I was told that I was not to be in any bar where my employee might be hanging out.
what is the point of that rule?
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what is the point of that rule?
The NBA rule or the rule at the job I use to be at?

if you are talking about the job I use to be at, it was to keep the management from socializing with the staff. Which is stupid, but since some managers couldn't seperate relationship outside of work as compared to in work it was needed at times.

If you are talkign about the NBA rule I think it is to protect the public
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If you put it in their contract, I'm ok with it. That would be an agreement between owner and player. This is a rule set by the league. I have a problem with that.

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I don't know how I feel about the rule but I do see where David Stern is coming from. He's trying to protect his product, he's trying to keep 2 things away from it; first the image of his product, and second the people who sell it. People are getting involved in shootings, killed and/or on the news.

There comes a point where the inmates are running the asylum and Stern is trying to prevent that from happening, and I applaud his efforts. Rules like this are punishment for an act that has been committed, if everyone can keep their nose clean then it wouldn't be needed.
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That's only because he wears disguises in some of his commercials.
That was him!?!?!
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