Proposed NBA Age Limit - min 2 yrs

[ScriptOhio]

Originally Posted by BuckeyePride

College stars fail in NBA too. I would imagine the ratio of college players failing in the NBA is higher than high school kids at this point.

I think this rule is a joke as far as NBA is concern. NFL rule is OK because of physical hardness. I doubt that NBA can defend their case like NFL did in the legal system.

The legal precedent was established in Clarett's NFL challenge. If it is negotiated with the players union and is in the collective bargaining agreement it "floats".

[OH10]

Originally Posted by DaytonBuck

Jermaine O'Neal and Rashard Lewis actually improved against NBA players versus playing in college. Greg Oden would have lost more money than any insurance policy could have ever paid him.

I'd love to see to OSU get loaded up with talent but not at the expense of their future. Going back to Cook last year I offer the advice that any sane person would have in the situation. If you can get million dollar money for playing hoops that's a train you should jump on.

And it took O'Neal and Lewis more than two years to make that leap. Before the high school invasion, plenty of the best went to school for two years and came out as instant impact guys. That's more than likely what would have happened for O'Neal and Lewis. In JO's case, maybe he would have come out a more mature man as well.

In Cook's case, there you have a guy that was never going to be a lottery pick. I don't care how many seasons he spent in college - he has flaws in his game that may never be fixed. So, for him individually, the one-and-done rule probably hurt. It gave teams a chance to see his flaws. If he had stayed in school another year, it would have given teams another year to see his flaws and he would have dropped further. Of course, that's the exact reason why the rule is important.

The rule gives teams more time to evaluate undeveloped talent. It gives "kids" an opportunity to mature in a structured, supervised environment. And it gives more exposure to these athletes than they would ever receive sitting on the bench for the first 2-3 years in the league - benefitting them for endorsements and benefitting the league for having players that are recognizable.

The exposure issues is extremely important here. It's the only positive that the rule brings, which benefits all sides. If we, as Ohio State fans, understand anything, it's that we will support our Buckeyes into their pro careers. The same is (will be) true about college basketball fans. It will help the viewership of the game to expand greater into areas like Kansas, Memphis, North Carolina, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, etc...

[ScriptOhio]

April 8, 2008

Erroneous reports go out that the league is looking to require two years of college. The age rule is expected to remain at 19.
So much for that new age rule.
Overheated press reports before today's joint NBA-NCAA news conference in San Antonio had NBA Commissioner David Stern and NCAA President Myles Brand about to announce a deal requiring college players to stay for two seasons instead of one.
This was not only in error -- there's no deal, nor was one discussed -- but missed a fundamental point:
This isn't between the NBA and the NCAA. It's between the NBA and the National Basketball Players Assn.
The NCAA acknowledged as much on its website, branding a FoxSports.com story "erroneous," and stating that it "has no role whatsoever regarding the NBA age policy or its collective bargaining process."
The news conference was only to announce the two parties' plans to clean up the corrupt environment of youth basketball, which could dovetail with a project Stern has long favored, the founding of an "NBA Academy."
(Laudable as their intentions may be, their chances can be summed up in two words: "Good luck.")
The NBA's age rule is determined by collective bargaining with the union, which gave Stern an important concession in the last deal, going from 18 to 19, which prevented players from coming directly from high school.

Entire article: New age limit in the NBA? Don't count on it - Los Angeles Times

[mooktarr]

Too bad, I liked the idea of keeping them here for another year

[crazybuckfan40]

There might not of been talks, but there will be in two years and this is the number one thing on Stern's to do list by the time he retires...

I truly believe this will be in place in a couple years...

[LitlBuck]

Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40

There might not of been talks, but there will be in two years and this is the number one thing on Stern's to do list by the time he retires...

I truly believe this will be in place in a couple years...

Over the players association's dead bodies

[crazybuckfan40]

Originally Posted by LitlBuck

Over the players association's dead bodies

I really don't see the player's association having a huge problem with this...These are all the guys that are in the league , and it won't matter to them that much if talent has to wait to come into the league for a couple years...

[LitlBuck]

Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40

I really don't see the player's association having a huge problem with this...These are all the guys that are in the league , and it won't matter to them that much if talent has to wait to come into the league for a couple years...

All I know is that they do not like the one year rule when it was put into the collective bargaining agreement this past time. Don't really understand the reasoning.

[ScarletStorms]

I just keep imagining how much it would have hurt to hold Lebron down for two years. Not just Lebron but the NBA in general. Might become common now for players to opt for Euro teams for a couple years before they try the NBA. Stretch that over a long enough time line and the NBA is no longer significantly better than Euro teams and players don't care so much about returning. And I wouldn't blame them at all.

And college basketball isn't college football. No one cares about college basketball outside of North Carolina. The only reason I watch is for recruiting purposes and because they have Ohio State on the front of their jersey. It is just laughable that David Stern could even conceive of telling players that he is going to cut their pro careers short by two years without compensation.

[billmac91]

Originally Posted by ScarletStorms

I just keep imagining how much it would have hurt to hold Lebron down for two years. Not just Lebron but the NBA in general. Might become common now for players to opt for Euro teams for a couple years before they try the NBA. Stretch that over a long enough time line and the NBA is no longer significantly better than Euro teams and players don't care so much about returning. And I wouldn't blame them at all.

And college basketball isn't college football. No one cares about college basketball outside of North Carolina. The only reason I watch is for recruiting purposes and because they have Ohio State on the front of their jersey. It is just laughable that David Stern could even conceive of telling players that he is going to cut their pro careers short by two years without compensation.

It isn't inconceivable at all....David Stern is the comissioner/CEO of a major corporation. Corporations are allowed to set rules. If you don't qualify....too bad. As long as they do not discriminate (allow some 18 year olds to enter but not others) they are free to do what they want without any concern of a lawsuit. If you don't like it as a player, play in another league.

The NFL does it, why can't the NBA?

[crazybuckfan40]

Originally Posted by ScarletStorms

I just keep imagining how much it would have hurt to hold Lebron down for two years. Not just Lebron but the NBA in general. Might become common now for players to opt for Euro teams for a couple years before they try the NBA. Stretch that over a long enough time line and the NBA is no longer significantly better than Euro teams and players don't care so much about returning. And I wouldn't blame them at all.

I guess I don't understand how it hurts someone to go through two years of basketball in a structured form, practicing 6 days a week, and in a college weight training program, etc...It isn't like they are putting the ball down for 2 years...

No american player that can play at the NBA level is going to go over there and stay over there...You could see an occasional kid or two go over there for money purposes or lack of grades, but I don't think that a kid is going to go over there get no exposure and then come back here...Kids get more exposure by going to college than coming straight out of high school...Durant is prime example number one...He got more air time on ESPN last year at Texas than he is getting in Seattle this year...

And college basketball isn't college football. No one cares about college basketball outside of North Carolina. The only reason I watch is for recruiting purposes and because they have Ohio State on the front of their jersey. It is just laughable that David Stern could even conceive of telling players that he is going to cut their pro careers short by two years without compensation.

And with better talent level you think more people won't tune in...If Lebron was at tOSU for two years, you don't think we would attract more than just tOSU fans...

And like billmac said he is the CEO and can put any kind of restrictions he wants on who to hire...of course the players union might have something to say about that, but as I mentioned earlier I don't see why it is that big of deal to ones that are already in the league...

[LitlBuck]

Originally Posted by ScarletStorms

And college basketball isn't college football. No one cares about college basketball outside of North Carolina. The only reason I watch is for recruiting purposes and because they have Ohio State on the front of their jersey. It is just laughable that David Stern could even conceive of telling players that he is going to cut their pro careers short by two years without compensation.

Then what are you doing in this forum

[jwinslow]

No one cares about college basketball outside of North Carolina.

Yeah, Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, UCLA, etc all have no interest, and certainly not fanatical, insane passion. It isn't like UCLA fans want Howland fired after 3 straight final fours. Oh wait...

The only reason I watch is for recruiting purposes and because they have Ohio State on the front of their jersey.

Wonderful. That's not why everyone else watches.

[OH10]

If the NBA agrees to raise the rookie cap to account for the potential lost year in salary, I fail to see how they could not make this work with everyone... including the player's union.

It really is a win-win.

I just keep imagining how much it would have hurt to hold Lebron down for two years.

Completely disagree. There's no reason to believe that Lebron would not be as dominant, if not a more complete player, than he is right now were he to have gone to college for two years. And if the NBA would agree to raise the rookie cap, that would account for lost salary in most situations. (Lebron's may be the one and only exception because of his ridiculous endorsements).

[DaytonBuck]

I think Greg Oden is the perfect example of why this a bad idea. How many picks would have dropped and how much endorsement would he have lost if came back this year?