Cavs-Magic - Game 4 - Page 2

OH10 · #16 (**permalink**) 05-25-2009, 09:07 PM

I would be surprised if the Cavs won Game 4 given their performance so far in this series and in the recent history at Amway Arena.

crazybuckfan40 · #17 (**permalink**) 05-25-2009, 09:07 PM

Basketball is all about mismatches...

We we are not using ours to our advantage and not slowing the Magic's mismatches down...This is where Mike Brown Struggles...

I know Boobie has struggled, but when West and Mo are playing so many minutes and not scoring I wouldn't mind a change up...Where was Wally...He will give good hard minutes for us...Eddie House almost changed the series for Boston against Orlando...

We need to find a way to defend the pick n roll...We see where they are moving the ball after the pick n roll...Script a way to defend it...

And where is the pick n pop with Z...Where the guard to guard pick n roll? pick n roll with andy..Why not a screen n roll and get West matched up with a bigger guy or Mo against a bigger guy...Then work off the dribble for easy buckets...

LBJ is getting points, but we will not win the series if the other guys don't show up a some more...

And I would like to see Brown stretch the bench a little bit and see if Wally and Boobie can't get some good minutes...

And LBJ getting out shot by Dwight Howard in the 4th quarter is the hardest thing to swallow from game 3...

Buckeye Nut · #18 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 12:08 AM

I think Wally could come in an knockdown some jumpers, but who's he going to guard on defense? He's a terrible defender to begin with and if he's in there he'd have to take Hedo or Lewis most likely and that's automatic points for the Magic if they just run an isolation play with whoever Wally's defending. It's just bad matchups all over the place for the Cavs, I really don't see anybody on the bench that's not playing that's going to be the answer to our problems. Sasha's the best thing we have because he gives us a little more size to go along with decent athletic ability and defense, he's the best option we have to come in off the bench and matchup with Hedo and Rashaard.

jlb1705 · #19 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 12:32 AM

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I think Wally could come in an knockdown some jumpers, but who's he going to guard on defense?

That guy in the corner that nobody else is guarding?

Point being, if you're already getting ape [censored]ed on some of these matchups on the defensive end, you might as well play somebody who can make (or take) a shot.

billmac91 · #20 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 12:34 AM

i just think Mike Brown needs to show a bit better feel for the game....Sasha last night, was not the same Sasha from Friday night. I 100% agree, Wally would have been more productive than Sasha last night. I personally think, Wally could be effective against Hedo. Wallyis smart enough to stop the penetration, and force Hedo to make the jump-shot. He's also not stupid enough to foul every freakin' time a pick and roll is being set. Not that Sasha was at fault for that.

Hands down, outside of Delonte West being an awful player in that game, the next worst thing was the constant fouls on pick and rolls while hedging. How many free-throws andf ouls came from Joe Smith and Anderson while stepping out to hedge the pick and roll.

BB73 · #21 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 12:54 AM

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i just think Mike Brown needs to show a bit better feel for the game....Sasha last night, was not the same Sasha from Friday night. I 100% agree, Wally would have been more productive than Sasha last night. I personally think, Wally could be effective against Hedo. Wallyis smart enough to stop the penetration, and force Hedo to make the jump-shot. He's also not stupid enough to foul every freakin' time a pick and roll is being set. Not that Sasha was at fault for that.

Hands down, outside of Delonte West being an awful player in that game, the next worst thing was the constant fouls on pick and rolls while hedging. How many free-throws andf ouls came from Joe Smith and Anderson while stepping out to hedge the pick and roll.

And a lot of those fouls gave FTs to Turkoglu, who made a total of 1 field goal in the game.

billmac91 · #22 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 03:56 AM

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And a lot of those fouls gave FTs to Turkoglu, who made a total of 1 field goal in the game.

No doubt. It was awful. To be fair to the Cavs, Hedo has some Paul Pierce skills in him, where whenever someone hedges, he acts as if the slight contact is a body blow. Paul Pierce is a master at this (the bobbing his head maneuver). Hedo has oerfected it, but he gets the call......A Lot.

It's up to the Cavs to adjust. LeBron made a point of saying in the last post-game that the fouls need to be minimized.

As a sidenote....Cavs won't win this series until Mike Brown takes LeBron off the OG on defense. there is zero need for this. Is 1 block a game, worth 15 points of 3's?

Buckeye Nut · #23 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jlb1705

That guy in the corner that nobody else is guarding?

Point being, if you're already getting ape [censored]ed on some of these matchups on the defensive end, you might as well play somebody who can make (or take) a shot.

It's not that easy. Plus there's things called adjustments, if they see Wally out there they are going to exploit him and not let him guard somebody who's just standing there. Any points he would give us offensively he would give back two-fold with his defense.

buckeyesin07 · #24 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 09:33 AM

It's hard to believe, seeing how well Orlando has played against the Cavs so far, that the Celtics pushed them to seven games even without KG. I keep hearing that it's all about mismatches, but I think it's more about LeBron's supporting cast failing to show up so far in this series. Every game the Cavs have a shot to win, despite the fact that Mo, Z, Delonte, etc. are shooting horribly from the field. If they can put together even a decent game tonight, the Cavs have to like their chances.

purplehaze1213 · #25 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyesin07

It's hard to believe, seeing how well Orlando has played against the Cavs so far, that the Celtics pushed them to seven games even without KG. I keep hearing that it's all about mismatches, but I think it's more about LeBron's supporting cast failing to show up so far in this series. Every game the Cavs have a shot to win, despite the fact that Mo, Z, Delonte, etc. are shooting horribly from the field. If they can put together even a decent game tonight, the Cavs have to like their chances.

While you're certainly correct that the supporting cast has not shown up yet, matchups are still key. A huge factor in the Celtics relative success against Orlando was the fact that they had Kendrick Perkins, a guy who was able to stop Dwight Howard without the help of a double-team. This allowed Boston to focus on the perimeter and shut down the threes. The Cavs don't have this luxury and it, along with some other mismatches, is killing them.

buckeyesin07 · #26 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 10:53 AM

I think the Cavs would be better off with Ben Wallace guarding Howard than with Z. Sure, Wallace isn't going to do much on the offensive end, but Z hasn't exactly been lighting it up either.

jwinslow · #27 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 11:13 AM

Mo Williams of Cleveland Cavaliers guarantees series win - ESPN

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Updated: May 26, 2009, 10:53 AM ET
Williams guarantees Cavs win

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Tinted sunglasses concealing the cuts and bandages framing his puffy left eye, struggling Cleveland guard Mo Williams plopped down on a table inside a ritzy hotel ballroom on Monday and quickly proclaimed the Cavaliers were not in any trouble.
Far from it.
"We're the best team in basketball," he said.
Really? The Cavaliers, winners of 66 regular-season games and their first eight straight in the playoffs, certainly haven't looked superior to the Orlando Magic.
They can't stop Dwight Howard inside. They can't contain Orlando's squadron of outside shooters. They are missing easy, open shots. They're not giving LeBron James enough support, and they trail 2-1 in the Eastern Conference finals.
Williams remains confident.
"They deserve respect," he said. "They are a good team. But we are the best team in basketball. I don't feel that they've had to adjust to us one time in the series."
So, Mo. You're sure the Cavaliers will win Game 4 on Tuesday night and rally to win the best-of-seven series. Willing to guarantee it?
"Guarantee we're going to win the series? Yeah, yeah," he said. "We are down 2-1. But there is nobody on this team and definitely not myself that says we are not going to win this series. Yeah, it is going to be tough. We know that. We get this game tomorrow, go home, still got home-court advantage.
"We don't see ourselves losing two out of three at home."
The Magic brushed off Williams' boast.

How about you guarantee to shoot the basketball better?

purplehaze1213 · #28 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 11:22 AM

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Mo Williams of Cleveland Cavaliers guarantees series win - ESPN

How about you guarantee to shoot the basketball better?

Wow, now I know what it must have felt like to be a Pistons fan when Rasheed made his retarded guarantee against the Cavs in 07. These things never end well...