Cavs 09-10 Season (official thread)

[OH10]

Originally Posted by OState29

The problem with this argument is that if you take away the top 2 players on any team in the league you're going to see a huge dropoff in performance. Teams are built around their top 2-3 players, the rest are complimentary players.

That's the point. If you take Lebron away from last year's team, does that team win 20 games? So you can't really point to the Knicks and say, "why would Lebron want to play with those losers?" Lebron could turn any team into a winner.

[aurorabuckeye13]

Originally Posted by OH10

That's the point. If you take Lebron away from last year's team, does that team win 20 games? So you can't really point to the Knicks and say, "why would Lebron want to play with those losers?" Lebron could turn any team into a winner.

You can't simply say take away those two guys and try to determine the record. Its an irrelevant argument because that money would be used on at least one other player that is probably the star of our team without Shaq and Lebron. If you want to argue that the supposrting cast sucks, do that, but i will disagree with you.

[Brutus1]

The most suprising thing of all is that 10 said he's possibly become a LBJ Knicks fan if he went there!!!!!

I'll admit that I'll be hoping daily for him to have a career ending injury if he did that. And I'm not even a Cleveland sports fan (except the Cavs).

Gilbert is doing everything but blowing LeBron. He just got him an invite to
the hi-roller billionaire's club retreat in Sun Valley, Idaho this week (or next). Only the richest of the rich get invited there. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and a host of big time money people. Gilbert finally got LBJ an invite after trying for 2/3 years. Even LeBrons buddy Warren Buffet didn't get him in.

[crazybuckfan40]

LBJ makes any team good...We all get that...

He makes the Cavs better in 2010/2011 than most teams he could join, because of chemistry and playing along side some of these guys multiple years...

The knicks don't have a second all-star and Brooklyn will have Devin Harris, but the Cavs would have Mo, LBJ to hopefully go along with a guy like Bosh...Sounds like the best situation to me...

[billmac91]

Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40

LBJ makes any team good...We all get that...

He makes the Cavs better in 2010/2011 than most teams he could join, because of chemistry and playing along side some of these guys multiple years...

The knicks don't have a second all-star and Brooklyn will have Devin Harris, but the Cavs would have Mo, LBJ to hopefully go along with a guy like Bosh...Sounds like the best situation to me...

I don't see where OH is wrong though...he makes legit points. Would anyone be shocked if he left??

I think I leave it at 50/50 at best, just so I'm not crushed if he goes Cleveland sports history on us.

I will say, comparising rosters at this point is a waste of time. Wait for the salary dumping this trade deadline, and ridiculous rosters come summer of 2010 just to chase 2 max deals. It will be absurd.

[OState29]

Originally Posted by billmac91

I don't see where OH is wrong though...he makes legit points. Would anyone be shocked if he left??

I think I leave it at 50/50 at best, just so I'm not crushed if he goes Cleveland sports history on us.

I will say, comparising rosters at this point is a waste of time. Wait for the salary dumping this trade deadline, and ridiculous rosters come summer of 2010 just to chase 2 max deals. It will be absurd.

I like to compare and compromise separately, but to each his own.

[Brutus1]

Originally Posted by billmac91

I don't see where OH is wrong though...he makes legit points. Would anyone be shocked if he left??

I think I leave it at 50/50 at best, just so I'm not crushed if he goes Cleveland sports history on us.

I will say, comparising rosters at this point is a waste of time. Wait for the salary dumping this trade deadline, and ridiculous rosters come summer of 2010 just to chase 2 max deals. It will be absurd.

The Cap is expected to drop 10-13MM for the 2010/2011 season. No one will be able to sign 2 max free agents.

[OH10]

Originally Posted by Brutus1

The most suprising thing of all is that 10 said he's possibly become a LBJ Knicks fan if he went there!!!!!

I'll admit that I'll be hoping daily for him to have a career ending injury if he did that. And I'm not even a Cleveland sports fan (except the Cavs).

I qualified it. If the Cavs left town for any city other than Columbus, I'm not just going to stop watching the NBA. I can't be bitter Cleveland sports fan my whole life.

[Brutus1]

Hey, at least we still have the Buckeyes !!

[NJ-Buckeye]

Why is Wally still on this team?

[Piney]

Originally Posted by NJ-Buckeye

Why is Wally still on this team?

I don't mind signing him to a one year contract. And that he knows he is an insurance policy and will be at the end of the bench most of the season.

[NJ-Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Piney

I don't mind signing him to a one year contract. And that he knows he is an insurance policy and will be at the end of the bench most of the season.

You musta been drinking heavily and went into the kitchen for a sammich... when Wally threw up AIRBALLS in the Conference Championship... I only want to use his contract to trade for a contract I really want... OR ... you bet on Orlando and made another gazillion vBucks

[Brutus1]

Who would trade for Wally when they can just sign him ?

[tsteele316]

Originally Posted by Brutus1

Who would trade for Wally when they can just sign him ?

cleveland can sign him to a partially guaranteed contract then trade him to another team that will buy out the guaranteed portion and save themselves luxury tax. it's how cleveland got shaq.

[exhawg]

Originally Posted by Brutus1

Who would trade for Wally when they can just sign him ?

The Cavs could use him as a sign and trade. i.e. The Cavs could sign Wally to a 10 mil contract with only 2 mil guaranteed and trade that contract to another team for a player with a 10 mil contract. When the other team gets Wally they could cut him and only pay 2 mil to get out from under the contract of the player they are getting rid of. Cavs get a good player and another team saves 8 mil.