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11-21-2004, 07:00 PM
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Back on topic for the rational (us, not half-wit): you can't really think that someone going into the stands and swinging at someone they THINK threw something at them is anywhere close to defensible, do you? I mean, if Artest sees who does it for sure with his own eyes and charges after the guy, or someone is out on the court, OK, you have a point, but he was laying down completely, and could never have seen who it was. The bottom line to me is that if you throw punches at someone who has done nothing to you in any other context, you end up in jail for assault and get the crap sued out of you. Just because Artest can throw a ball in a hoop and he (thinks he) can rap, doesn't mean the penalty should be any different. The others I can say I have more sympathy for their situation once it all got started (O'Neal and Jackson), but I would think that suspending Artest until the All Star Break would be a fair penalty, in additon to the money he will lose to the league and the people he started cracking on and any possible criminal proceedings. He doesn't give a [censored] alright, and you can't live your life like that without paying consequences if you aren't going to control yourdelf at all.
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11-21-2004, 07:05 PM
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The "Southern racist Buckeye fans" thread that referenced "golden boy"
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Hmmmm....I wonder who the southerner could be 
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11-21-2004, 07:05 PM
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Oh my god. Per ESPN.com:
NBA Takes A Stand
The NBA responded harshly to the fight Friday in Detroit. Ron Artest will not play this year. Stephen Jackson will miss 30 games, Jermaine O'Neal 25, Ben Wallace six and Anthony Johnson five. Four others received one-game suspensions and fines.
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11-21-2004, 07:07 PM
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Life is full of irony.....Mr. Artest got what he wanted. Time off to push his new CD.
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11-21-2004, 07:13 PM
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I'm very surprise Artest got a year. Good for Stern!
I bet we've seen the last of NBA players going into the stands and beating the crap out of innocent fans.
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11-21-2004, 07:43 PM
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Honestly, while I fully support the suspensions, and agree Artest is just a psycho seemingly looking for an excuse, I think the NBA-and possibly the NFL,MLB,etc., should re-evaluate their alocohol policies.
I am all for beer drinking, partying,etc. That said, people-including myself-sometimes do stupid things while intoxicated. I think the leagues should just ban the sale of beer at games. Will some people be [censored]ed off-of course. That said, theorretically,you go to watch the game, not to drink overpriced BudLight or Miller. Someone who would pass up going to an NFL or NBA game because they cannot drink is someone who can easily be replaced by someone else-attendance would not suffer.
I admit that baseball is a different animal-I am not a huge baseball fan, and probably would not go see a Reds game if I couldn't have a couple of brews while watching the sloooooooooow pace of play. That said, I wouldn't be outraged if the Reds put in this policy, I just wouldn't go to a baseball game. I think baseball might be hurt by this, but the NBA and NFL-no way. Also, I think a lot more families would be inclined to bring their kids to games if they didn't have to worry about some drunk doing something offensive around their kids
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11-21-2004, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stxbuck
Honestly, while I fully support the suspensions, and agree Artest is just a psycho seemingly looking for an excuse, I think the NBA-and possibly the NFL,MLB,etc., should re-evaluate their alocohol policies.
I am all for beer drinking, partying,etc. That said, people-including myself-sometimes do stupid things while intoxicated. I think the leagues should just ban the sale of beer at games. Will some people be [censored]ed off-of course. That said, theorretically,you go to watch the game, not to drink overpriced BudLight or Miller. Someone who would pass up going to an NFL or NBA game because they cannot drink is someone who can easily be replaced by someone else-attendance would not suffer.
I admit that baseball is a different animal-I am not a huge baseball fan, and probably would not go see a Reds game if I couldn't have a couple of brews while watching the sloooooooooow pace of play. That said, I wouldn't be outraged if the Reds put in this policy, I just wouldn't go to a baseball game. I think baseball might be hurt by this, but the NBA and NFL-no way. Also, I think a lot more families would be inclined to bring their kids to games if they didn't have to worry about some drunk doing something offensive around their kids
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One word why this will never happen - revenue.
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11-21-2004, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vrbryant
Oh my god. Per ESPN.com:
NBA Takes A Stand
The NBA responded harshly to the fight Friday in Detroit. Ron Artest will not play this year. Stephen Jackson will miss 30 games, Jermaine O'Neal 25, Ben Wallace six and Anthony Johnson five. Four others received one-game suspensions and fines.
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Six for Ben Wallace? For what? Getting hit in the back of the head?
COMPLETELY RETARDED.
I don't think it's any secret that Wallace got his six games on behalf of the fans who threw stuff. That's the only reason anyone could justify a suspension for him.
Artest got what he deserved. Actually, his penalty was a little light, but it was acceptable. Jackson and O'Neal got slaps on the wrist.
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