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02-15-2005, 11:27 AM
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I Will Only Say This, "they Need A Lot Of Work To Climb Out Of The Hole They Are In! Good Luck To The Browns!"
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02-15-2005, 11:28 AM
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if i am the browns i am trading the #3 pick and getting an extra two and three in the deal....they need a number of good players, not just one qb or cb...
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If they can make that deal... I'm all for it.
All I was saying if they think Rodgers or Smith is the real deal, I say they take them. Crennel doesn't have to win now... and I agree that they could use a LOT of help... but... you also can't turn down a franchise QB. (I'm not saying that those guys are great or not great or whatever... but in their situation , I think you have to take the best Player available... especially if its at a need position, which, QB is.)
There is no gaurantee for a "win now" pick... look what happened with KWII... they overpaid, and he broke his leg...
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02-15-2005, 11:29 AM
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Yes Alan, if they don't use the #3, I would love to see them shop it around for maybe a couple of late #1's and a #2....something of the sort. They need so much help, they don't need the #1 pick to get it, they need quantity unfortunately.
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02-15-2005, 11:39 AM
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Dunno how much they can get for that 3.
But... BMW is looking in great shape, so that helps... and the 2 QB's and a few other guys might get thrown up top... so... the value might be there.
Also- Quick Congratulations to Jeff Davidson being named the Browns new OL coach.
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02-15-2005, 12:50 PM
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I wish D'Brickshaw Ferguson would have come out this year. He was an Offensive Lineman worthy of a number 3 pick. The best lineman in this years draft is Alex Barron and he is probably no better than a 10-15. We need to trade down. Follow Pittsburgh's model for drafting a QB, don't do it until you have peices around him or he'll get killed and get his confidence smashed (Couch).
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02-15-2005, 01:24 PM
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hopefully the combines will elevate a handful of players to the top of the draft boards and give cleveland some sort of bargaining power for a trade down.
i said jokingly a while back that I would be satisfied if cleveland drafted 7 guys that lined up in a 3-point stance every play.
as of now, cleveland is in need of guards on the OL over tackles.
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02-15-2005, 01:53 PM
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I'm still sticking with wanting a QB at the #3 pick with either Rodgers or Smith. I really like Smith..I think Rodgers is gone by the Browns' pick.
Barron was brought up. I have him going as high as Tennessee at the #6 pick. Maybe the Browns could move down a few spots but I don't think Barron lasts past the #12 pick with San Diego or #14 at Carolina.
There are a couple of OL's that could be there in the second round. It may be better to wait till then.
If the Browns don't take a QB with the #3 pick, I think the only guys worth consideration at this point is Derrick Johnson, Antrell Rolle, and Pac-Man Jones. This is definetely not a year for top 5 defensive talent.
The only chance I see Cleveland trading down is with Arizona to get an RB. Arizona is in a peculiar spot since Miami, Tampa, and Oakland need RB's with Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, and Benson to choose from, thus, putting Zona in a spot to trade up to get one of them. There is a chance that Alex Smith could still slip to #8 as well as Barron.
Overall, I still think Smith is the choice and then hope that either Adam Terry or David Baas will slip down to their choice in round 2.
and remember this...Walter Jones of Seattle is an FA along with Hasslebeck and Alexander. The chances they would franchise Jones over those 2 is very remote. That would be my biggest FA guy right there.
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02-15-2005, 02:10 PM
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if i am the browns i am trading the #3 pick and getting an extra two and three in the deal....they need a number of good players, not just one qb or cb...
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This is exactly what I hope they do.
Trade down to get 2 first rounders, and 2 second rounders.
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02-15-2005, 02:13 PM
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Like I said, the only possibility I see of anyone trading up to Cleveland where Cleveland could still get a high pick is with Arizona.
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02-15-2005, 02:14 PM
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The Browns are going to be running the 3-4, which I think means no Derrick Johnson. He doesn't have the weight and isn't strong enough at the point of attac | |
