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06-05-2005, 10:40 AM
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I want to rise to my own defense for a second on this one.
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yet somehow we manage to have the highest winning percentage since 1950. damn.....wish we could get a QB 
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I am fully aware that our beloved Buckeyes have had fabulous success without ever developing a truly great QB. My comments were not intended to denigrate the entire history of the program, just to point out a truism: TOSU is not a place top-notch high school QBs -- from outside Ohio, anyway -- choose to attend. Never, ever.
Oh8ch then offers up a clever list of rhetorical questions that have absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making ...and earns a Great Post Award for it. I don't disagree with a single comment he made, except that they are irrelevant to the point of my original post.
You can hang your hat on Craig Krenzel -- a bright, gritty, even heroic football player, but in no one's opinion a truly great QB -- and the promise of JT's future recruits all you want. I hope you're right. But it doesn't change the fact that top-notch high school QBs from outside Ohio have never, ever chosen tOSU as the team to build their careers around. That's not a horrible thing by any means. We've had terrific success without them. It's not an indictment of anybody -- Woody, Cooper or Tressel. It's just a fact. We're known for the running game and smash-mouth defense, and lately exceptional special teams. We're just not known for QBs.
There's no reason for folks to get all worked up over the truth. It's actually kind of fun living in the real world. Try it sometime.
PS -- my original post was a response to the Recruiting thread on Tim Tebow. Someone at a much higher pay grade than mine decided to move it off to the Professional section as a thread-starter. That was never my idea.
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06-05-2005, 10:41 AM
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I have a serious question that I really do not know the answer to. Can someone please share with me some QBs who were the highest rated players coming out of high school, had stellar college careers and tore up the NFL?
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06-05-2005, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FritoBandito
we're never going to land a high school kid who projects to be an NFL-caliber player.
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You don't think Justin Zwick was getting some NFL-potential talk coming out of Massilon?
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There's no reason for folks to get all worked up over the truth. It's actually kind of fun living in the real world. Try it sometime.
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I didn't see anyone getting worked up at all...I saw a pretty good discussion regarding various perceptions of the situation...I'd classify it all as real world thinking as well.
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PS -- my original post was a response to the Recruiting thread on Tim Tebow. Someone at a much higher pay grade than mine decided to move it off to the Professional section as a thread-starter. That was never my idea.
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Because it had nothing to do with Tim Tebow...this is a discussion in itself.
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Joe Namath, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Joe Montana, Payton Manning off the top of my head. It's a nice long list.
There seems to be a predictability about the really great ones. That's not to say it always works out, but the amazingly great ones seem to be great from birth. Check out Jerry Rudzinski's column this week on Bucknuts about Nature vs. Nurture. He comes down squarely on the side of Nature.
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06-05-2005, 10:49 AM
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Joe Namath, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Joe Montana, Payton Manning off the top of my head. It's a nice long list.
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But you could easily name just as many sure-fire successes that crashed and burned...
Todd Marinovich, Ryan Leaf, Todd Blackledge, CJ Leak, Ron Powlus....
If success was a predictable as you are claiming, the Draft would be simple and the NFL would never see a bust.
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06-05-2005, 10:53 AM
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