I'd like to thank the Lord Jesus...

[Clarity]

Originally Posted by ashlandbuck

vrbryant isn't a troubled soul.....He's a sick sociopath that enjoys downgrading various peoples and enjoys their misery.
Actually, that sounds a lot like a 1940's Nazi.


This guy is actually a moderator on this forum?...I'll soon be going back to Bucknuts.

Speaking ones mind, and provoking conversation and debate in a sometimes caustic way sounds like the Nazis, but being so violently opposed to other points of view doesn't. Hmm. I'm sure he'd welcome any constructive counterpoints to themes and thoughts he's presented, instead of painting his comments with such a broad brush, perhaps you (or others) should address his apparent deficiencies.

He has the access of a moderator in case I'm not well enough to do something around here that has to get taken care of. He actually has more access than that, as he's my brother. He is not a moderator of this, or any other forum though. His access pertains to the maintenance and upkeep areas of the site. That access was neither something he asked for, nor was it something he particularly wanted. I gave it to him as a backup plan to cover my downtime. He won't be editing threads, banning people, or dictating policy. Almost entirely because he doesn't care to.

Does that offend you even more? How about this? The kid who downgrades blue collar workers is wrapping up his English degree so he can go off and be a fire fighter. The one who seemingly rips on Hispanics has a sister-in-law who is Colombian by birth. The one that rips on religion comes from a family with strong Catholic roots. Some people are just willing to challenge perceptions, promote deeper thinking than the norm, and sometimes just enjoy a spirited conversation for the tactical pleasure of the process. A person like this might have a background in debate, being able to take a point that even he doesn't fully believe in, and defend it with salient points and sound logic -- which invites people to reach a little deeper in their responses.

Frankly, if vrbryant is enough to send you running back to Bucknuts, I'd sooner recommend you stop logging onto the internet entirely. There's a dangerous range of diversity in opinions and perspectives out there. Different people of different ages, ethnicities, backgrounds, cultures, intellectual capacities, humor, education ... I could go on and on. If hearing something different than your own perspectives is a problem, the best bet is to cancel your phone service, smash your television, burn your books and periodicals, close the curtains, lock the doors, and hide in your room with a shotgun pointed at the door.

Vrbryant, as my brother, has no more or less a right on this board to speak his mind that you, buckeye1, Tibor, Mililani, or anyone else here whether they're a new user, someone who goes way back on BNuts with me, a mod, an admin, or anyone else.

The whole point of this board is to provide a place where people can speak their minds, and other people can choose whether they want to read more of that or not. They can choose to debate, they can choose to set that user to Ignore, they can choose to visit or avoid the various forums, they can choose to visit here or not.

This is the offseason. One would hope that during the season, the ratio of OSU football talk to general chatter and debate would shift heavily in favor of the good stuff. But either way, that's fine, this place is going to be what it's going to be.

If you don't have at least a slightly open mind, if you can't consider things that challenge your perceptions, or if you can't go into your UserCP and set someone you don't like to ignore, then yeah, you're out of place here. Head off wherever you like, forums like these should be a good time. And if they're not for you, you're just wasting yours.

[RAMdrvr1]

I'm not sure that I understand someone thanking Jesus for seeing that someone who openly confesses his faith in the same Jesus lose their income. He same income that is given in titheing to his church, used to support missionaries, feed poor, and many other ways, as well as support his family. So many pro and college atletes today use the media to glorify God. How can yow watch sports at all, knowing that you risk hearing another Christian's testimony?

And you don't like him because his wife sometimes runs her mouth when she shouldn't? My goodness, who's wife doesn't? If anything, you should pray FOR him, not against him.

How many athletes in the pros are over-rated? Do you ask Jesus to get rid of all of them? Heck, whole teams would disappear!

[ashlandbuck]

Clarity

Defend vrbryants views in any way you wish. Make whatever excuses you wish for his views. It doesn't take away from the the fact that his opinions make him out to be a sick sociopath that needs a lot of understanding and probably professional help.
I don't have to like him, agree with, and I am too free to express my opinion of him.
As far as he being your brother, that only goes to show me why you would be biased in my attack of his views and his psychological condition. I do not respect your feelings on this matter for that very reason.
So what, he has a sister in law that is Hispanic? What does that have to do with the fact that he had several post that demeaned the entire Hispanic race.
He came from a strong Catholic backround. I'm sure there have been many ill people that have come from strong religious backrounds.
The reasons you gave and the excuses you gave for this guy does not hold water with me. They are weak excuses That mostly are not even relevant to to the comments he has made in the past.
Personally I think much less of you for defending such dispicable views that your brothers holds.

[Clarity]

Think of me as you will. I know the guy better than you do, I actually know the positions he holds, and I know how he thinks. You have, at best, a perception based on a few threads here. I think you've read parts of his posts, and grabbed on to specific themes and points, and just sort of blown off the rest. But I'd be lying if I told you that yours is an unexpected point of view. My last post wasn't to defend him (lol, he doesn't need or want me to do so) as much as it was to try to get you to see a bigger picture. I think you're looking at it with pretty serious blinders on. But I don't blame you for that. He's presented some points with extra emphasis for the sake of getting under some people's skins, there have been some comments he's made that I actually called him about, because I took them as poorly as others did (referencing the convo about the birth by kitchen knife thread). But, at least in that case in particular, he's gone out of his way to clean up his point, and respond to people who took issue with it.

But you're right, lol, the whole theme here is people can do and say as they wish. I don't ask you to like or appreciate vrbryant any more than I do any other user. How you feel about him should have no bearing whatsoever on your feeling about me, the site, or anything else. I'm sorry that it does for you. But I hope you won't think me rude if I tell you I'm not going to lose sleep over that. Entirely because it's inevitable that some people aren't going to like others at all on this board.

Do as you wish. Put both of us on ignore if you wish. Whole point of the tools is that people experience the community the way they wish, and I'd hate to think that you have to suffer the pathologies of the Bryant brothers.

Originally Posted by ashlandbuck

Clarity

Defend vrbryants views in any way you wish. Make whatever excuses you wish for his views. It doesn't take away from the the fact that his opinions make him out to be a sick sociopath that needs a lot of understanding and probably professional help.
I don't have to like him, agree with, and I am too free to express my opinion of him.
As far as he being your brother, that only goes to show me why you would be biased in my attack of his views and his psychological condition. I do not respect your feelings on this matter for that very reason.
So what, he has a sister in law that is Hispanic? What does that have to do with the fact that he had several post that demeaned the entire Hispanic race.
He came from a strong Catholic backround. I'm sure there have been many ill people that have come from strong religious backrounds.
The reasons you gave and the excuses you gave for this guy does not hold water with me. They are weak excuses That mostly are not even relevant to to the comments he has made in the past.
Personally I think much less of you for defending such dispicable views that your brothers holds.

[tibor75]

Originally Posted by Buckeye1

Tibor & vrbryant,
I do not condemn you nor do I hate you for your deep rooted troublesome soul. However, I am sadden by your view of life and attitude toward others because of their faith. As Dihard said, Kurt is a great man who gratefully remembered his God blessed fortune by caring for two little boys who are in need of help. He thanks Jesus because he knows something you don't, and I pray someday you would because you are missing the greatest joy in life. By the way, he did not just do all this because he is now rich...he has been thanking Christ a long time before he got famous. I have a friend who is paralyzed for life, and she thanks Jesus every day.

Oh my goodness! Brother Jed on Buckeye Planet!

[LoKyBuckeye]

He actually has more access than that, as he's my brother

I knew that the arcade was rigged... is that why he has a lot of the trophy's?