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03-13-2006, 11:28 AM
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the best part about bunkley is that he could very well play either DE or NT in the 3-4. Ideally he'd add about 15-20 lbs to be a 3-4 NT. His versatility could make him a very viable option.
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03-13-2006, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tsteele316
There was also some scuttlebutt about the packers being interested in faine. it wouldnt be totally out of the realm of possibility to have the browns package faine and a draft pick to flop spots with the packers in the first and then take Hawk. the question will be whether GB will be willing to move down that far.
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Seems like a dream that would be too good to be true if you ask me... on that note, I would do a backflip if this went down because I think it would be a great move. Hawk could step in opposite Andra Davis, and that would fill a need seeing as we lost Bart Scott who resigned with Baltimore. |
03-13-2006, 07:20 PM
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look ma no shoelaces, and I'm down with the KIIING
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These signings are awesome. I love the fact that both bentley and schaffer have their best years ahead of them. Continuity on o-line is so crucial to being effective in the NFL, and if Faine can manage to find himself a spot at guard and pick up a thing or two from lecharles, then that gives us a solid core of good young lineman to build a line that will play consistantly well year to year.
After all the BS player acquisitions browns fans had to deal with during the palmer davis years, it's great that they are bringing in guys like JJ and Zastudil who the fans can chear for.
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Originally Posted by Piney
Also, in interviews Savage has said that they signing a player in free agency will not prevent them from picking a player of the same position high in the draft. For example Bunkley or Ngata since we signed Washington. Washington isn't a young pup and the Browns are not good enough to pass up the best player available just because they signed an aging starter.
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Looking forward to the draft, you'd like to see them pick up impact players at both DL and LB in the first 2 rounds, but judging from what I've heard / seen from savage, he is confident enough in his player eval skills to avoid reaching for a position of need. Realisticaly, if they come away with 1 guy at either of those positions and another guy with undeniable talent, I wouldn't be disappointed.
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03-13-2006, 07:40 PM
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All right, all right, all right.
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If you ask me, an ideal scenario is to hope that Ngata drops to the Browns, and slowly work him in behind Ted Washington. Washington isnt a permanent solution, the maximum time he will be here is 2 years, and working Ngata in so that Ngata can take over for him would be huge.
Anyone else really hoping we draft Hodge in the second???
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03-13-2006, 08:22 PM
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Serenity now
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Yes, Hodge in the 2nd would be great. Hodge or Whitner could be realistic options. You'd probably have to package more than Faine to move up from 12 to 5.
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By Jeff Walcoff, Staff Writer
March 13, 2006
When nose tackle Ted Washington left New England after the team's Super Bowl win in 2004, he had a message for Romeo Crennel: Become a head coach, and I'll be there.
His promise is coming to fruition.
"We talked about it my last year in New England - about him becoming a head coach," Washington said. "And I said, ‘Well if you get a head coaching job and I'm still around, I want to be a part of it.'
"My decision (to come to Cleveland) was based on coach (Crennel) and what we went through in New England and the type of defense they run here. I wanted to be somewhere I felt comfortable. I know what it takes to run a defensive front and I know where he's going with this.
"Cleveland was No. 1. I was pushing my agent to make sure to give the Browns the first dibs on me coming there before I took a trip anywhere else."
By signing Washington to a two-year deal, the Browns plugged a big hole in its 3-4 defense with a 365-pound mammoth.
"This is an area we talked about constantly since we got here last year, and that was to try to build a run defense and improve our run defense," Browns senior vice president and general manager Phil Savage said. "That's something I talked to you about after the season. The guy we've signed...is one of the all-time great nose tackles."
Washington, a four-time Pro Bowl selection, also has shown notable durability. During 11 of his 15 professional seasons, he participated in all 16 games on the regular season slate. Overall, he has appeared in 215 NFL contests.
Washington said his goal originally was to play 15 years - a number he'll surpass once he steps on the field in ‘06. Now, he'd just like to play a few more seasons. He also said one more trip to the Pro Bowl is a goal.
At his age (he'll be 38 next month), it's natural to ask questions about his ability to still contribute and start as a pro. But Washington said he's still playing and making a difference.
"A lot of teams are looking at age, which is just a number," Washington said. "If you can still go and your film shows you are still playing at a high level, go ahead and give that guy a chance. Yeah, I'm up there in age. I'm probably one of the oldest defensive linemen in the league, but I'm still playing at a high level.
"You're going to have wear and tear if you play a long time in any sport. As for myself, I'm blessed. I still have some years left in me. Give me some good guys to back me up and I'll give you three or four more years."
Players like Washington create a paradox. For years, a lack of veteran leadership and game experience has been a criticism of the Browns. By adding players like Washington and receiver Joe Jurevicius, signed Saturday, the team gains those attributes, but also adds players who are nearing the latter portions of their career.
The Browns are out to prove having the prior at the expense of some age is advantageous to having a roster full of young and inexperienced players.
Washington knows the positive things he will be asked to provide.
"Veteran leadership is going to play a big role here," he said. "I have a lot to offer to them because I've been on championship teams, losing teams and mediocre teams. I've seen and done it all. Speaking to (young players) is not just going to do it. I have to lead by example.
"I've been (tutoring young players) since my fifth year at (nose tackle). It's different playing the position in college and then coming to this level and trying to play that position. I'm not a selfish guy, so I try to give out as much as I can. Because if I was to go down, I want to make sure my backup knows what's going on and knows what to expect."
His weight also has been mentioned as a concern. But, he assured fans Monday he'll be at whatever playing weight is asked of him.
Having to answer doubts about his age and weight, Washington is simply anxious to disprove his skeptics and show he's not long past his prime.
"I just go do my job," Washington said. "I'm not a trash-talker. But if it comes to me, I'm going to step up to the plate and accept the challenge for any player that wants to say, ‘Hey, he's over the hill. He's too fat,' and all this other stuff. Well, I'll show you on the field."
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03-13-2006, 08:23 PM
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All right, all right, all right.
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Im a bigger fan of Hodge than Greenway, I really hope that we take him in the second.
Is Bunkley big enough to play NT in the 3-4, or would he slide down to DE?
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03-13-2006, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by scarletngrey77
If you ask me, an ideal scenario is to hope that Ngata drops to the Browns, and slowly work him in behind Ted Washington. Washington isnt a permanent solution, the maximum time he will be here is 2 years, and working Ngata in so that Ngata can take over for him would be huge.
Anyone else really hoping we draft Hodge in the second???
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I actually think the ideal scenario is for the Browns to trade down. (Unless Ngata, Hawk or someone else surprising drops down). Would love for Denver to fall in love with someone and get their 2 1st rounders. But then again I really want Carpenter cuz I want to buy his jersey 
But really I have faith that Savage won't reach. It is like when Baltimore took Suggs even though they really didn't need him. He was just too talented to not pick him. You just take the talented guy and figure out how to get him on the field after the fact. An example of a guy that might fall is Huff. I can easily see Savage picking him if he drops since he would be BPA.
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03-13-2006, 08:49 PM
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Now that we're speculating ...My ideal draft(abridged version) would go something like this....
1- Ngata, if he were to slip....grab him. I think he's NFL ready as is, and it would be great to be able to rotate him and Washington to keep them fresh...lets not forget Ted is gonna be 38 soon. No Ngata, I say go for Carp(trading down a few spots) who is ideal for RAC's D.
2-Depends on Rd 1. If we get Ngata, I say go Hodge...no Ngata grab another DT...trade down if necessary and gain another pick.
3- Some more OL depth would be nice.
4- Again depending on what happens above, but if Kudla is available, I say grab him. Yes I am a homer.
5-7 I say fill in other holes with BPA.
Kind of hypothetical, but my basic thinking.
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