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Old 12-19-2005, 07:05 PM
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With a few notable exceptions - its takes 4 years to develop into a good NFL QB. Eli Manning is going through it right now. So is Vick.
This is Vick's 5th season. If he hasn't developed as a QB now or develop the accuracy in his 5th season then he never will. Atlanta is [censored]ed with him because they gave him that ridiculous deal.

I think this is all that needs to be said about the development of Vick.

GS Comp% Yards Yds/Att TD INT Sacks Rating Fum
13 183 54.3 2136 6.34 13 12 26/139 71.8 10
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:14 PM
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This is Vick's 5th season. If he hasn't developed as a QB now or develop the accuracy in his 5th season then he never will. Atlanta is [censored]ed with him because they gave him that ridiculous deal.

I think this is all that needs to be said about the development of Vick.

GS Comp% Yards Yds/Att TD INT Sacks Rating Fum
13 183 54.3 2136 6.34 13 12 26/139 71.8 10
11-5 and an NFC championship bid is pretty [censored]ed
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:24 PM
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This is Vick's 5th season. If he hasn't developed as a QB now or develop the accuracy in his 5th season then he never will. Atlanta is [censored]ed with him because they gave him that ridiculous deal.

I think this is all that needs to be said about the development of Vick.

GS Comp% Yards Yds/Att TD INT Sacks Rating Fum
13 183 54.3 2136 6.34 13 12 26/139 71.8 10
Yeah... I'm starting to have my doubts about Vick, too. He did play a great Bears defense last night, though. Also, he's only played 4 full seasons. However, he should be adjusted now. Schaub has played pretty well when he's been in. The problem is that the Falcons would never want to get rid of a guy like Vick because he is such an exciting player to watch.
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11-5 and an NFC championship bid is pretty [censored]ed
And now they're 8-6 and may not even make the playoffs. The whole "I win games" excuse is getting old, because, uh, they're not winning games. But I'm sure none of that is his fault.
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Here is a very good gauge...If you are a coach down a TD, and you need to drive the length of the field in a hostile environment with the clock winding down...would you want Vick as your QB. Me, no. I can think of at least 6 QBs off the top of my head I'd rather have.
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Vick has never even been able to match his 2002 production, which was 2936 yards on 54.9% with 16 TDs to 8 INTs...not exactly worldbeating numbers. This year, assuming he completes the last 2 ballgames, there is a good chance he will still probably not reach the attempts, completions, yards, completion% (about the same), TDs, INTs, sack #, pass plays over 20 yards, pass plays over 40 yards, and rating that he had in 2002, just his second in the league, and his first full season.

I'm not seeing much improvement from then, and therin lies the problem. If he is about what he is going to be, then the Falcons won't make the Super Bowl as they are.
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Here is a very good gauge...If you are a coach down a TD, and you need to drive the length of the field in a hostile environment with the clock winding down...would you want Vick as your QB. Me, no. I can think of at least 6 QBs off the top of my head I'd rather have.
Brady, Palmer, B-Roth, P Manning, Leftwich, Green, Brees, Plummer, Brunell, Bledsoe, Eli, McNabb, Favre, Hasselbeck, Bulger, Delhomme....
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