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01-21-2007, 09:06 PM
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he is the secondary coach, which seems ironic yet fitting.
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Yet still in the NFL which I take to mean he's NFL caliber. A point you said was "laughable".
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01-21-2007, 09:09 PM
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I said he wasn't a NFL caliber head coach, I specifically stated he is a good assistant. Keep spinning......
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01-21-2007, 09:09 PM
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I said he wasn't a NFL caliber head coach, I specifically stated he is a good assistant. Keep spinning......
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That makes two of us 
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Originally Posted by jwinslow
Talk about wild exaggeration and massive leaps of logic... he was a good coordinator, little else. Care to explain your claim about why it's undisputable that he's NFL caliber as a HC?
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01-21-2007, 09:10 PM
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Vick has been a problem but not the only one. To say Atl. last coaching staff was NFL quality is laughable.
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No spin needed
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01-21-2007, 09:17 PM
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No spin needed
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 never mind my quoted post above.
As for your 'smoking gun' by T.M., Mora and the OC struggled this year. Still waiting for you to explain how Mora's skills as an assistant (whether it be in SF or now SEA) prove the ATL coaching staff, specifically Mora as a HC, is worth defending.
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01-21-2007, 09:27 PM
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Not really... Mora and their OC seemed quite overmatched in their coaching duties. Still waiting for you to explain how Mora's skills as an assistant (whether it be in SF or now SEA) prove the ATL coaching staff, specifically Mora as a HC, is worth defending.
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This is what happens when you get into a debate mid stream. Go back and look at what was said.
The Man made the statement that to say Atl's staff was NFL caliber was laughable.
I then pointed out that Mora Jr may not have been great but to dismiss him as not even NFL caliber was wild hyperbole.
Up to this moment no one has shown me how that statement wasn't exactly what I said it was. All I've seen is a bunch of ND Chief impersonations in trying to take the conversation in different directions instead of debating the only point I made.
Pretty simple really.
Mora Jr is NFL caliber
Vick is a coach killer
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01-21-2007, 09:33 PM
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