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Old 11-08-2005, 02:09 PM
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Two great points. He's supposed to be running the West Coast offense, and for that, an adequate completion % is 60...the better QBs that run it are around 65% or better.
I believe the all-time completion percentage record is 64.3% by Steve Young so I think your #'s are a little inflated.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:47 PM
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I believe the all-time completion percentage record is 64.3% by Steve Young so I think your #'s are a little inflated.
actually the only thing inflated is your opinion of your own football knowledge. Ken Anderson holds the record at around 70% (strike shortened season) and Steve Young is very close at 70.3%. He went over 65% several times.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:49 PM
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actually the only thing inflated is your opinion of your own football knowledge. Ken Anderson holds the record at around 70% (strike shortened season) and Steve Young is very close at 70.3%. He went over 65% several times.
I'm talking about for a career fuckstain.

Point being that it's nearly impossible to consistently throw for a 65% completion percentage.
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So do those of you who think Vick is a good QB think he will ever win a Super Bowl? Personally I think he only has 3 or 4 more seasons before he loses a step and can't run as well. If he doesn't become a consistently better passer he doesn't have a chance. As I said before I think the Falcons would be better off moving Vick to Slash and getting a pro style QB. Winning a lot of games is far different than winning the big games. When teams can stop Vick from running he usually loses.
Since when is 22 of 31 for 228 yards and 1 TD a "great" performance? Dilfer was 18 of 34 for 272 and 1 TD does that make him great?
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I'm talking about for a career fuckstain.

Point being that it's nearly impossible to consistently throw for a 65% completion percentage.
Career leaders (1500 attempts):

Kurt Warner, 65.9
Daunte Culpepper, 64.37
Steve Young, 64.28

So, maybe I was off by a percentage point or two, but I think it is definitely the case that in this day and age of 2-yard dumpoffs and 5-yard slants, QBs running a West Coast variant should be hitting at least 60% for a season. Though I don't know the entire all-time list, I wouldn't be surprised if every one of the top 15-25 in completion percentage will have played after 1980, and most of them will have been after 1990, when all is said and done.
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Career leaders (1500 attempts):

Kurt Warner, 65.9
Daunte Culpepper, 64.37
Steve Young, 64.28
Is this counting Culpepper's interceptions as receptions? I guess, I'm just surprised that his is this high.
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Career leaders (1500 attempts):

Kurt Warner, 65.9
Daunte Culpepper, 64.37
Steve Young, 64.28

So, maybe I was off by a percentage point or two, but I think it is definitely the case that in this day and age of 2-yard dumpoffs and 5-yard slants, QBs running a West Coast variant should be hitting at least 60% for a season. Though I don't know the entire all-time list, I wouldn't be surprised if every one of the top 15-25 in completion percentage will have played after 1980, and most of them will have been after 1990, when all is said and done.
I actually am with you that Vick is overrated.

I was just providing some stats for the sake of argument.
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