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11-23-2005, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40
yeah well their D has forgot how to stop anyone giving up a ton of points to GB and Tampa. Not exactally two stellar Offenses.
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well tampa bay is a decent offense (with cadillac playing well now) and green bay will always put points up with Favre slinging it around. their defense has been playing pretty poor, but untill they start giving up 30 to the texans and jets, i wouldnt call their opponents that horrible on the offensive (though neither are really elite offenses anyway, but decent ones).
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11-23-2005, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ScarletBlood31
well tampa bay is a decent offense (with cadillac playing well now) and green bay will always put points up with Favre slinging it around. their defense has been playing pretty poor, but untill they start giving up 30 to the texans and jets, i wouldnt call their opponents that horrible on the offensive (though neither are really elite offenses anyway, but decent ones).
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Don't know if you follow Falcons football or not, but there D has been strong over the past year or so and to give up in the 30's to Tampa and Green Bay is totally unacceptable. Vick did what he had to do to keep them in the games and he even tried a helluva a comeback this past saturday, but the defense gave it up and he still gave his team a chance to kick a 55 yarder to tie it up. |
11-23-2005, 02:08 AM
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Don't know if you follow Falcons football or not, but there D has been strong over the past year or so and to give up in the 30's to Tampa and Green Bay is totally unacceptable. Vick did what he had to do to keep them in the games and he even tried a helluva a comeback this past saturday, but the defense gave it up and he still gave his team a chance to kick a 55 yarder to tie it up.
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true, giving up 30 points to any team is pretty poor, and Atlanta does have a good defense, but it could have been to teams with totally non-existent offenses, because thats when you start to really worry about your D rolling over for anybody. but i dont follow Falcons football really that in-depth so im sure some of you are more knowledgable of them.
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11-23-2005, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40
Don't know if you follow Falcons football or not, but there D has been strong over the past year or so and to give up in the 30's to Tampa and Green Bay is totally unacceptable. Vick did what he had to do to keep them in the games and he even tried a helluva a comeback this past saturday, but the defense gave it up and he still gave his team a chance to kick a 55 yarder to tie it up.
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Yeah, and as we all know... defenses win games. You can put up 30+ points a game, still have a great offense, and lose. Just ask Peyton Manning how painfully true that is. |
11-23-2005, 02:15 AM
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Yeah, and as we all know... defenses win games. You can put up 30+ points a game, still have a great offense, and lose. Just ask Peyton Manning how painfully true that is.
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i believe peyton didnt put up any 30+ points when he lost his games. those games he lost were when he got shut down / choked (whatever reason you wanna go with) and then the defense gave up points. but Manning has rarely put up 30 points or more and still lost a big game.
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11-26-2005, 11:46 PM
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I saw another good performance by Vick on Thursday. Him and Alge Crumpler really showed some great chemistry, together. He also competed against a pretty good defense, and if they hadn't of been up by so much, then he could've had really good stats.
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11-27-2005, 03:19 AM
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I saw another good performance by Vick on Thursday. Him and Alge Crumpler really showed some great chemistry, together. He also competed against a pretty good defense, and if they hadn't of been up by so much, then he could've had really good stats.
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Detroit Lions = Mediocre defense.
Saying that "if they weren't u by so much they could have had better stats" is a pretty weak arguement, considering that they really only missed 9 minutes. Starters get pulled out of blowout games all of the time, and there are countless times where a team could have put up more yards and more points, but players got pulled. Getting pulled at halftime makes a difference, but 9 minutes of a dieing game is not really anything that you should put an asterik next to.
Its like Wilt Chamberlain scoring 100 points in a basketball game, sure, there are players good enough that can get hot enough who could attempt to repeat it against a poor team, but they usually get pulled out after about 60 points or so. Its not anything to really complain about, because it is effective for all players and teams and not just something that limits a certain player.
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11-27-2005, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ScarletBlood31
Detroit Lions = Mediocre defense.
Saying that "if they weren't u by so much they could have had better stats" is a pretty weak arguement, considering that they really only missed 9 minutes. Starters get pulled out of blowout games all of the time, and there are countless times where a team could have put up more yards and more points, but players got pulled. Getting pulled at halftime makes a difference, but 9 minutes of a dieing game is not really anything that you should put an asterik next to.
Its like Wilt Chamberlain scoring 100 points in a basketball game, sure, there are players good enough that can get hot enough who could attempt to repeat it against a poor team, but they usually get pulled out after about 60 points or so. Its not anything to really complain about, because it is effective for all players and teams and not just something that limits a certain player.
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I think you misunderstood him, he was talking about, how Vick didnt have to throw, b/c the running game was working, and they didnt have to drop back and pass 30 or so times.
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